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To: Dan3 who wrote (137864)6/21/2001 11:23:34 AM
From: fingolfen   of 186894
 
The specs have now been released and there is almost no difference in power consumption between .18 coppermine and .13 tualatin.
That Intel has nothing better to produce with the early limited number of .13 wafer starts than PIIIs, including some as slow as 866MHZ, is striking. Either their new product lines are in complete disarray or their .13 transition is a failure. AMD's emergency effort to add SOI to their .13 process seemed to indicate that .13 on conventional wafers provides little or no benefit in terms of speed or power consumption. Intel's recent actions may be a confirmation. AMD lowered power consumption more from a re-layout of Athlon on an existing .18 CU process than Intel gained from a a re-layout and a move from .18 AL to .13 CU.


Ummmmm.... Dan.... you DO of course remember that the Tualatin mobile has twice the cache of the coppermine, and that additional cache appears to take up almost 25% of the silicon of the Tualatin chip based on pictures on the web???

No, clearly you don't remember that, or you would have taken it into consideration...

Furthermore, why don't you wait until someone tries to overclock an 866 part before you declare Intel's 0.13 micron process a failure? Even with the extra cache, the die size of the Tualatin is much smaller than the coppermine... It makes good economic sense to move over to the new design as quickly as possible in a variety of speed grades...
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