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Leading Asian investment source Smart Investor, easily one of the best magazines published on investing across Asia did this interview which we want to share with you today:
Smart Investor: The rules have changed. Investing in Internet stocks is now a different ball game altogether, and valuations are not always based on traditional methodologies. Can you explain the main factors contributing to the success of your selection process?
Harmon: The first thing we look for is the company?s business model. We like companies that are viral, scalable, adaptable, flexible, and well-capitalized. We look at the management team and the category the company falls in. From the category, we ask ourselves how the company is ranked. Is it first in its league or the fourth? Is it regional or global? The percentage returns on our picks are secondary. We are looking at long-term value. We select a stock not based on a six-month or one-year time frame, let alone a one-day hit. Our long-term meter may span two to three or even four to five years. We study how strong a company?s management is, its market and how well funded the company is. Take AOL (America Online), its market cap has grown tremendously, from US$3.5 billion to US$138 billion today. Why? Its growth rate is in the triple digits annually. A measure we use is the revenue growth over annual sales revenue growth.
SI: How has the top 10 for the year 2000 performed so far?
Harmon: It is still early to say. We are looking at the longer range. We like companies such as Terra Networks (TRRA), SpyGlass (SPYG), Redback (RBAK) and US Interactive (USIT). These companies have growth in the triple digits. In Asia, we are big fans of Pacific Internet. In fact, the companies I selected in 1998 are still those that I like to own. In 1998, I selected Broadcom (BRCM) and AOL. I did not abandon them. As an investor, I would like to own all of them. I am not a seller. Just imagine Yahoo! (YHOO) back then did not have a business model that made sense. My hypothesis was that if Yahoo! could capture just 1% of Internet advertising revenue in the US, it would be huge. From the early days of US$3 billion, Internet ad revenues are now north of US$400 billion. Yahoo!?s market cap went from US$1 billion to US$100 billion in just four years. We are also fond of JDS Uniphase (JDSU) and Internet service provider PSI Net (PSIX).
SI: Your views on Asian Internet companies?
Harmon: First of all, I would encourage Asian entrepreneurs to embrace some of the US models, but not to copy them. Innovate, do things fresh. Go through the whole venture capital (VC) process. The Asia experience seems to indicate that companies are in a hurry to get a listing. They may get the attention but the main drawback is they may not get efficient financing. Asian companies are getting Internet-centric but they are not getting the expertise provided by the true-breed VCs such as Asia Tech Ventures. VCs know how to grow companies. In Asia, there are not a lot of good VCs around. Efficient financing is important because the Internet is so exponential. Geographical borders do not define the Internet. Asian and European companies must realize that thinking small is not a good idea. Think global, the opportunities are in the billions of dollars, ranging from US$1 billion to US$50 billion. Interesting Asian companies are Softbank and Hikari Tsushin. I also favor AsianInfo Holdings (ASIA), which has the China government?s strong approval. Another private Asian play we like is Alibaba.com.
SI: The investment universe for Internet companies is rapidly growing. With so much "noise" generated by existing players, new start-ups and potential wannabes, how do you go about filtering out the potential winners?
Harmon: We examine the landscape where there are business opportunities. We have to take a panoramic view of the Internet battlefield. We are always looking at the bigger picture. The degree of separation is few and far between. For example who would have imagined Softbank buying Nippon Credit Bank? In the digital world, you are just one step away from doing anything. We check the company?s backers and assess the managementûs vision. Is this the right time for this company? Back then, SpyGlass was working on Web devices for a long time. How do you invest in virtual reality then? Now we have Web phones and PDAs (Personal Digital Assistants). Timing is an important element. To us, success comes from separating the signals from the noise. We are on 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and we are in sync with developments on the Internet. After six years, I?m quite used to the pace. Instinct is the ultimate driver of an investment decision. George Soros and Paul Tudor Jones they both won on instinct. Is RedBack Networks overvalued? In my mind, heart and gut, it has a long way to go. We are investing in growth, not earnings. In the past, we looked at price-earnings ratios and this is a boxed experience. Today, focus on capital needs. The capital needs a huge payback exponential. Petroleum is no longer your fuel, it is electrons. Light is your fuel. Think outside the box.
SI: What is your measure for successful Internet stocks?
Harmon: The easiest matrix will be based on sales, gross profit margins and market share. We always ask ourselves if a company is delivering a real business or solving a need. Is the company chasing wind? The ultimate matrix will include the management factor will they be able to carry the ball all the way?
SI: You are credited with creating many new analytical tools for valuing Internet companies. Can you share with us some of these tools and the various financial measures/ratios you commonly employ in valuing Internet stocks?
Harmon: For the e-Harmon matrices, the main premise for value lies in the user. Some ratios we look at include market cap per user, market cap per page views, revenue per page view, ad inventory sell through, conversion of bandwidth to revenue, and traffic to revenue. The bandwidth is your pipe and we assess how much of that you are converting into revenue. In the digital marketplace, you have a choice of building a low-margin business or a high-margin one like software/ASP. The foundation is similar as the pipes, be it T1 or T3 are similar. Amazon.com, they had the digital pipe open and I recognized that early. From a market cap of US$3 billion, they are now valued at US$20 billion.
SI: Have these indicators/measure/ratios proven their efficiency in picking the winners and identifying losers?
Harmon: In 1996, I compared Yahoo! and CNet (CNET) using market value per user and market value per page view. Based on this, I realised Yahoo! had more growth to go. Yahoo! delivered more page views and Yahoo! was only double that of CNet back then. Another favorable factor to note was Yahoo! having Softbank as a partner. Having a partner is critical. One company that lost is Quarterdeck, an earlier licensee for Netscape?s Mosaic. That deal in itself was good but they never built up a channel to distribute the product. Netscape distributed its products over the Internet, and there were 20 million downloads in one year. The idea is not to go on the Internet if you are not scalable. By being scalable, you are being customer-prepared. IE Explorer, HotMail, Yahoo! Japan and Satyam Infoway (SIFY) are all scalable.
SI: What signals/measures should investors look out for, to indicate a sell?
Harmon: Watch out for hype. Be more critical and discerning. Do your research. Do not chase the wind. If revenue slows down quarter-on-quarter, something is wrong. Technology is shifting all the time; from narrowband to broadband. For us, we look for new growth and sell the old. We look at the price over sales to growth; we are measuring revenues. Look at the management team are they able to take the technology shift?
SI: You mentioned one of your top 10 for 2000 is Singaporeûs very own ISP Pacific Internet. Why?
Harmon: We like Pacific Internet as it has a lot of potential to grow into a lot of new areas. It has multiple revenue streams; Web hosting, IT services, transactional-based revenues, the backing of the government and deep pockets. Pacific Internet is able to penetrate Asia very easily. It is an established brand and has the ability to run a successful business. And Pacific Internet is steered by a superb management team led by Nicholas Lee.
SI: What about competition in the form of free Internet access in Singapore?
Harmon: I would rather pay $20 to be left alone. Nothing is really free; it is a misnomer. Marketing will support free access. I expect tiered services to emerge. Free access is not a priority for corporations; they want service.
SI: Vinton Cerf advocates buying companies that supply the "picks and shovels" to the Internet industry. Which Internet sector do you prefer?
Harmon: The first Internet wave came from infrastructure, then came software. The third wave is about e-commerce and services. I am an investor in every layer. The concrete has been laid and I am there end-to-end. We have classified the Internet into seven different sectors: hardware, software, B2B, broadband infrastructure, access/hosting, e-commerce, and international. Within these is another four to five sectors and 50 investment opportunities. We are a big fan of Warren Buffet. We "webtised" that and our philosophy is to invest in what we know. Buffet was an astute investor in consumer franchise. If you look at it, Microsoft is actually a franchise. We are entering the Internet franchise era. Success comes from providing a good service and having brand operating leverage.
SI: Some doomsday sayers are predicting a massive crash on NASDAQ this year. Do you think valuations on NASDAQ are overly rich?
Harmon: Do not use the rear-view mirror to drive into the future. We are now talking about light power. Light is the new benchmark, not horse or petroleum power. Think digital. NASDAQ is a reflection of the shift into the digital era. Sure, there will be corrections. More will leave the Dow and invest in the future. Investing in technology is not a fad. I think NASDAQ is undervalued. The industry is undervalued. The value of 400 of the top Internet companies is about the same value as Microsoft, Intel and Dell combined. Definitely, some companies may be frothy but that is where our analysis comes in. The important thing is to understand the digital DNA. Having that understanding is extremely rare. Masayoshi Son (of Softbank), Richard Li (Pacific Century), John Doerr (of Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers), David Wetherell (of CMGi) all understood this early. The Internet represents a new digital economy. What we see as having zero gravity. Commerce will be big in this digital economy. We are different from the gold rush. The Internet is more of a shifting of business to another platform. Back then, the gold rush was limited to one place in California. The telephone was a new way of doing commerce. With the Internet there are a hundred thousand ways of doing commerce. Everybody should have Internet-driven revenues. If you are not an Internet company in 10 years? time, you are dead.
Story courtesy of Smart Investor |