Hi elpolvo —
First, apologies for the late reply, and thanks for the link. One of the difficulties with this thread is that in order to grok what's being stated, the reader must understand the science and the scientists that led the way. SI folks usually like quick reads and simple responses. This thread's a little different.
TEOTWAWKI? I actually had to look it up. It's been a few years since I dipped into survivalist sites and I haven't been back until now. Your statement —
"what makes global warming anthropogenic, is an overpopulation of a certain species of mammal on earth. none of the proposed solutions will be effective without a decline in the number of these mammals inhabiting the earth at the same time"
— is true.
But the referenced scientists and ecological economists go much farther than that. Erwin Schrodinger, for instance. Schrodinger published "What is Life?" in 1944, a year after public lectures at Trinity College in Dublin. He sought to understand —and explain— why living organisms, apparently, defy the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The answer of course, is that they don't. But they DO adapt and survive for a time, using and storing both energy and information -- until ultimately, the energy cost of system maintenance defeats them. Then they die.
Working and corresponding with others such as Alan Turing and Claude Shannon, Schrodinger developed the idea of a "code script": the seed concept behind RNA/DNA. Beyond consciousness, that's the information that biological entities pass on -- it's encoded in the organism. Watson and Crick followed Schrodinger's work with the first physical confirmation that what Schrodinger had envisioned did, in fact, exist.
Like Einstein's theories, Schrodinger's brilliant insights in physics and biology have been validated time after time.
Schrodinger focused on entropy and energy. Every bit of energy we use to make things, to survive and prosper, eventually becomes unusable. It's gone -- well, except for atomic energy. That's a special case and eventually, even fissile material degrades. Coal? Becomes ash and CO2. Organic material? Rots. Steel? "Rust never sleeps". Entropy.
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Searching TEOTWAWKI I found this interesting site:
28 Inconvenient Truths About TEOTWAWKI
— True, that.
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There ARE plans for mankind's survival, and they've existed for for decades. To get a sense of how they work, go to the Center for the Advancement of the Steady State Economy
— Where those plans -- and this thread -- diverge is at human nature and mass behaviour. The prediction is that mankind will be unable to curb itself. We will run to exhaustion.
More to come.
Jim |
