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To: rose frances who wrote (3927)	12/3/1996 6:45:00 PM
From: hpeace	of 39621

Rose... those are your words...not mind This is my exact post:Jesus even said He saw Satan cast to earth like ligthing... since this happened billions of years ago then the earth had to be billions of yrs old.Jesus actually created Lucifer. Col chapter one talks about that. Lucifer's creation and fall is described in Isiah 14 and eze 28. And the first Garden of Eden is talked about in Eze 28. Where do you see third Heaven in the above post... The heaven he was cast out of was not the third Heaven where God's domain is. There are actually 3 different heavens. In the first creation of earth , Lucifer tried to exalt himself above the clouds.. read eze 28...he was cast back down to earth from the second heaven (atmosphere is literal translation). But, some do buy into lucifer was in the Heaven... I don't want to debate that althoguh I beleive that the first Eden was on earth..billions of years ago. This Eden was the garden of God... not the Eden ,garden of Adam. they say that Lucifer was once perfect in everyway.. This is how he was described until imperfection was created in him..pride. I do know that Jesus was saying that He was in the beginning.. this is a reference to the past but can be a type and shadow of the distance future also.. It has to be both. Can you elaborate on what you are trying to say??? Can you go read the body of knowledge that talks about the pre-Adamite existance.... We can then discuss what elements you can refute with scripture God Bless

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