"Further discontent in the Cragun Stable? Perhaps somebody should alert Bryant Cragun. Or better yet, his lawyer. What's the matter with these guys on the Yahoo! DDD board? "
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Reply To: 23369 by BiggZero Sunday, 2 Jul 2000 at 1:53 AM EDT
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Further discontent in the Cragun Stable? Perhaps somebody should alert Bryant Cragun. Or better yet, his lawyer. What's the matter with these guys on the Yahoo! DDD board?
AlpineSleuth
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Manipulation
by: aprochasm (38/M/New York , New York)
6/30/00 7:54 am
Msg: 4712 of 4723
I'm reading a lot of negatives about the past. Did these investors know they held restricted stock? What were the limitations on B Craegun share or the firms he controls. Although these allogations have to be proved , Access Financial and others implicated into manipulating this stock at their own advantage screwing investors , if true should be raised to the FCC. If I held stock at 12 or 14 dollars I would sure be on the phone with Mr Eagen at Access. Ultimately if current shareholders don,t regain part of their investments a class action suit will be filed. They may have covered the "legalities" but fraud is fraud. Some statements made in several reports were outright lies. This is why the underlying disclaimer always , in most cases , covers their asses. but in this situation with the proper handling , I think the SEC would surely investigate. I still believe the stock has greay potential and if the shares do not increase in value and some statements can be proven as outright lies , What goes around will come around. Scam artists are at the center of attention on Wall St at the moment.How many shares the access retain at the moment with their projected August price of 24.
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first things first
by: BOWGULL (36/M/TEXAS)
6/30/00 7:58 pm
Msg: 4719 of 4723
most of the problems with bryant cragun came about when DDD was cqmt, also alot of the problems happened overseas by some b.s. brokerage operator. its all old news, what we need is volume and channel to be deployed, AKA exposure to the masses, I don't care if b.c. still holds 10million shares you can't manipulate a stock that has high volume,,only thing he can do is sell but what good would that do him..its all old news and in the past..ddd is a tiny baby that is growing and making deals left and right. current price sucks but patience i believe will be rewarded or i wouldn't own alot of shares! also imho they got more funding from someone who also believes and his risk is much greater then mine since he/they put in a couple million i would venture to say that as channel get deploy in the fall, with cable america,gte etc etc things will pick up..
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Bowgull - it is still going on
by: helltown_2000
7/1/00 11:44 pm
Msg: 4723 of 4723
Yes, most of the investors who have had problems with CQMT/DDD are overseas. Does that mean it should not be discussed? No, and the problems are still going on. I got DDD 3Q last year but could not get certs. BC has not gone away. The latest trick is an offer to exchange stocks that have dropped in price for units in a BVI fund. One of the fund directors is BC. Would you like a copy of the prospectus?
I agree that DDD appears to have potential, but they should take some (if not all?) of the responsibility for the overseas investors who have been/are still being screwed (no certs, can't sell etc). Who gave the b.s brokers the shares in the first place? |
