<< Clearly we have different opinions! I consider couple of major OEMS signing up a major requisite to say the ramp occurred. >>
The p3 1ghz wasn't a real product, and several high level oems 'offered' it. The fact that it's readily obtainable makes it real to me, whether or not oems sell it is another (though very important) issue though at this point it's purely a symmantical debate, as I'm sure we're both upset that Duron's aren't being offered at compaq/gateway/hp.
<< So what is your theory on why Compaq/Gateway/HP are shipping systems right now? Durons are too good to use right now? AMD is capacity limited and does not want to sell Durons? DIY market used up all the Socket A motherboards and big OEMs are scrambling? Aliens took them away? Intel conspiracy? Something else? >>
I never disagreed with you, I was just asking if you had any direct sources telling you this, or whether you deduced it. I agree it's the most likely explanation, but it certainly isn't the only one.
<< Sorry for the sarcasm but the penchant of some folks on the thread to ignore over-abundance of data that supports a screwed up launch is getting to me. >>
Anyone who thinks the Duron launch went well has their heads in the sand as far as I'm concerned. Maybe under the circumstances it was as smooth as we could hope for, but I certainly wouldn't call it a good launch.
<< The only good thing that van be said here is that the problems are behind us - at least for KT133. That's not saying anything about other platform launches though I feel pretty good about 760 launch. >>
I think the most important thing is that AMD has proved to the world that they are sticking around. That's why you're seeing micron, sis, and ali come up with chipsets. I think AMD needs to have their own as well and shouldn't depend on these other companies, but it's nice to have 4 guys behind you instead of just 1. I am also looking forward to the 760 more than these other chipsets, but I'll be glad when there is an overabundance out there.
One of the main issues going forward to me from here is compatibility issues for the next generation of processors. If Mustang requires one of the new chipsets from sis, ali, micron, or 760, then we may have this same problem again when it comes out. If sledgehammer requires an entirely new chipset then we go through it yet again afterwards.
It's somewhat troubling to see that we could potentially have this problem twice more in the next year. |
