EPA will require that consumers purchase a minimum of four gallons when buying from a gas station that sells gasoline containing 10 percent ethanol and 15 percent ethanol
Republicans criticize four-gallon EPA gas purchase mandate
Daily Caller ^ Monday, September 17, 2012
With prices at the pump worrying Americans, Republicans have railed against the Environmental Protection Agency’s new gas mandate that requires consumers to buy at least four gallons when purchasing from stations with hoses containing 10 percent and 15 percent ethanol-blended fuel.
On Monday, Republicans on the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology sent a letter to Environmental Protection Agency Chief Administrator Lisa Jackson criticizing the agency’s approval of the sale of gasoline containing 15 volume percent ethanol.
Specifically, the EPA will require that consumers purchase a minimum of four gallons when buying from a gas station that sells gasoline containing 10 percent ethanol and 15 percent ethanol — also known as “E15? — out of the same gas pump.
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To: TigerClaws
WTF EPA?
I can’t afford that.
2 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:50:21 PM by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: TigerClaws
This tyrant has got to go! First health insurance now gasoline. WTF is next?
3 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:50:36 PM by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: TigerClaws
Stuck on the highway and need to carry the gas can a couple of miles.... 4 gallons is too heavy
4 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:51:31 PM by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: TigerClaws
what happens if you drive a motorcycle or scooter with less than a 4 gallon tank? What would the EPA say if I sprayed 2 gallons all over the ground?
5 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:51:47 PM by pie_eater
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To: TigerClaws
This kind of governmental micro-management is insane and tyrannical.
6 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:51:57 PM by circlecity
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To: TigerClaws
so I guess if you’re on a scooter, you’re to let it overflow onto the ground and pollute goddess gaia and further enrage Algore and the EPA.
7 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:52:12 PM by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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8 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:52:30 PM by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: TigerClaws
There is no way they could enforce that mandate.
9 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:52:43 PM by PJBankard (I told my friends I was heading to Octermocty for the weekend. They replied... "Wear the fox hat")
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To: TigerClaws
I don't remember Congress approving this law requirement.
How will they enforce this on the consumers, they can't force us
to buy anything. Oh wait, SCOTUS. And so it begins..
10 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:52:46 PM by MaxMax
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To: TigerClaws
My fuel injectors need gasoline, not friggin’ moonshine!
How much more tyranny, America? How much more before we burn the rats out?
11 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:53:02 PM by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: pie_eater
you beat mt to it. I’ve had cycles that won’t hold 4.
you let the spillover go, light it, yell “allah fubar!”
and run.
12 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:53:35 PM by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TigerClaws
Is there going to be an armed guard at every gas station monitoring your purchase?
How can they force you to do this?
13 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:53:39 PM by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: TurboZamboni; All
14 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:53:42 PM by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: TigerClaws
I wonder how they are going to enforce that? maybe put a tax payer paid secret agent at every gas station.
15 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:54:00 PM by ravenwolf
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To: TigerClaws
What? WHAT??? WHAT THE HELL??????????
Are they out of their ever-lovin’ minds?
16 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:54:08 PM by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: pie_eater
IIRC, this is specifically because of motorcycles and other small engined vehicles.
The higher ethanol blend would damage them.
Because the tanks are small, there could be enough of the high-ethanol gas in the hose on a blend-switching pump from the last customer that the ethanol percentage in a motorcycle fillup will be enough to damage the engine.
So the geniouses at the EPA figure that if they make it illegal to buy small quantities, then motorcyclists will not use these pumps thus “fixing” the problem they created.
17 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:54:36 PM by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: TigerClaws
hopefully this won’t ever take affect
I should be saying “pass Congress” but they punted their power a long time ago
18 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:54:39 PM by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: mosaicwolf
What’s next?
Well, let’s see... anything that isn’t currently under their control, that’s what.
Actually, they’re controlling energy/mobility now, so we can guess at the next control will probably be on water or food.
19 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:55:10 PM by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: All
Nearly every time I step into the convenience store one person in front of me is paying with a five or ten dollar bill—likely to get him just enough gas to get to work until he can afford a fill up. But, hey, these big government people are for the little guy.
20 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:55:23 PM by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: TurboZamboni
Like I’m going to pay ten bucks of gas to pour on the ground to get the $6.40 gas I need for my scooter.
21 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:57:01 PM by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: pie_eater
Absurd.
22 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:57:37 PM by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: pie_eater
what happens if you drive a motorcycle or scooter with less than a 4 gallon tank? What would the EPA say if I sprayed 2 gallons all over the ground?If I get my wife and son out, we'll fill 3 bikes with one swipe of the card at one pump. Alternatively, you could wave a fist full of cash at someone purchasing premium for a car and "tailgate" on their purchase. I don't want E15 in my motorcycles...ever.
23 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:58:31 PM by Myrddin
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To: chrisser
Why would you presume the EPA cares whether or not it damages cycles (specifically 2 strokes)?
they think “saving the planet”(which ethanol doesn’t do) is more important than anything else.
24 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:59:25 PM by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: svcw
Does that mean the sign at the gas station will say $16.00 instead of $4.00?
25 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 4:59:44 PM by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: TigerClaws
Why aren’t these people defunded yet???? House pubbies: YOU control the purse...yeah I know, hard for you to believe but its TRUE!
So I go fill up my mower can @ 2.5 gals and what are they gonna do? Throw me in jail? They will do that about once.
EFF these azholes!What a bunch of morons.
26 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:00:10 PM by Adder (No Mo BO)
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To: TigerClaws
The gas can lobby must be behind this.
My gas can that I fill my mower and chainsaw is only one gallon...............
27 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:00:20 PM by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: TigerClaws
I haven’t seen a gas pump that offers me a choice of E10/15 or regular.
28 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:00:37 PM by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: PJBankard
No they won’t enforce it...on individual consumers. They will go after the vendor, franchisee, gas station owners.
29 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:02:30 PM by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: TigerClaws
Is this satire? Launching this kind of mayhem right before the election cycle is certainly enough to draw attention away from Obama’s FAILED foreign policy.... but I dont’ think it would be the attention they wish to have!
30 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:02:58 PM by Made In The USA (Can we cut the BS and just say it like it is?)
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To: Jonty30
So I need to start lugging a jerry can around to buy gas for my mower? I guess I need to get out the ol’ siphon hose for small “purchases”.
31 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:03:19 PM by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: GeronL
How many gallons does it take to set an EPA adminisTRAITOR on fire?..........
32 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:04:02 PM by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: TigerClaws
” - - - Specifically, the EPA will require that consumers purchase a minimum of four gallons when buying from a gas station that sells gasoline containing 10 percent ethanol and 15 percent ethanol - - - “
No problem: just BOYCOTT those gas stations.
33 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:05:30 PM by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: PJBankard
There is no way they could enforce that mandate. Actually it is quite easy to enforce. Make all the pumps pre-pay or credit card only (that's already pretty common here in Indiana) and mandate a 4-gallon minimum purchase charge.
34 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:06:00 PM by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: svcw
see my post #34
35 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:08:04 PM by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: TigerClaws
Actually, I think you might want to do that if you are buying E10. I suspect the regulation is so enough gas flows down the hose into the car that any residual E15 on the delivery hose is diluted. Otherwise, you might get too much ethanol in what you thought was E10.It is a cluster flop just waiting to happen. Fornicate E15 and E10 - stop burning food.
36 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:09:38 PM by NonValueAdded (Taranto: "The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.")
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To: razorback-bert
I haven’t seen a gas pump that offers me a choice of E10/15 or regular.They'll probably mandate a pump retrofit later, funded by new gas taxes to pay for the new federal retrofit program. /s
37 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:11:09 PM by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: nascarnation
Exactly. :(
This is awful.
38 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:11:34 PM by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Red Badger
"How many gallons does it take to set an EPA adminisTRAITOR on fire?.........."Depends on if you're using an incandescent or squiggly bulb to light it off.
Oh that's right, incandescent will soon be illegal as well.
39 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:12:54 PM by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
A piece of fine wire, 28 gage or smaller works well........;^)
40 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:16:24 PM by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: nascarnation
Make all the pumps pre-pay or credit card only (that's already pretty common here in Indiana) and mandate a 4-gallon minimum purchase charge.
That wouldn't work as if they don't use all 4 gallons, the station would have to reimburse the amount not used. The station could not legally take the full value of 4 gallons of gas from you if you didn't use all 4 gallons.
41 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:17:09 PM by PJBankard (I told my friends I was heading to Octermocty for the weekend. They replied... "Wear the fox hat")
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To: TigerClaws
imgine the situation for motorcycles.
scooters
This is government stuck on stupid and then welding the lever in place to loosen it.
42 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:19:06 PM by longtermmemmory (VOTE! senate.gov and house.gov)
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To: TigerClaws; All
Does anyone know of an over the counter additive you can use to make the Gasoline more “friendly” for small engines like like lawnmowers?
43 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:20:16 PM by The Working Man
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To: SE Mom
Here’s the last line of the article:
“It has been reported that the American Petroleum Institute estimates that more than five million vehicles on the road could be harmed by E15 fuel.”
NOW YOU KNOW WHY THEY WANT THIS...........
44 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:21:56 PM by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: pie_eater
If you drive a motorcycle, scooter or even something powered by a chain saw engine, you will not be driving very far on this gas.
E15 will destroy two cycle engines. Also older cars like maybe pre 2002 are going to stop running on E15.
Boat motors? forgetaboutit!
Ethanol is crap gas.
Corn is for making whiskey, not engine fuel.
45 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:22:16 PM by 9422WMR (Life is not fair, just deal with it.)
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To: TigerClaws
“The EPA has no business telling Americans how much fuel they must purchase,” the letter from Republican committee members Jim Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin and Chip Cravaack of Minnesota. I guess we should just think of this as a tax...
Right Chief Justice Roberts, you dumb ass!
46 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:22:40 PM by DoughtyOne (Obama, our first Mulligan Pres__ent Resident.)
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To: svcw
Minimum charge for four gallons whether you want it or not.
47 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:24:20 PM by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: Red Badger
Yikes!
This is the kind of thing that really gets my blood boiling.
48 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:25:19 PM by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: 9422WMR
and yet farmers demand corn subsidies continue like a government intern on crack.
49 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:27:41 PM by longtermmemmory (VOTE! senate.gov and house.gov)
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To: SE Mom
Motorcycles, Boat motors and small engines in lawnmowers and weed-eaters and chainsaws cannot handle E15. They will be ruined............on purpose.........
50 posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 5:30:02 PM by Red Badger |
