If you want to get more specific, I'll try to address a specific question
The specific question is about what harm there may be so long as Mojo stays under the radar, not hanging out a shingle and taking clients only by word of mouth so that he's not in a position where he overtly rejects any clients.
I have intentionally constrained the scenario to the level of Mojo activity I'm prepared to tolerate--the under the radar level. I think that X, Solon, and I all agree that there is a sort of generalized, bad-karma type of harm to society when that kind of discriminatory attitude is present. Solon and I think that the specific harm to individuals, though, is unlikely and minimal. X claims a specific harm from denial of service, even if the denial isn't rude, where the mere absence of the services of one masseur is effectively a denial of service. I agree with her, but we both agree that that type of harm isn't measurable or actionable. And, of course, that the bad-karma harm isn't actionable, either.
So the question is, do you see those harms? Other harms? Which, if any, harms?
Remember that we're talking about the under the radar scenario only. If Mojo gets above the radar, that's another matter.
When Jewel first posed this scenario there was no suggestion that he would be practicing below the radar so people saw lots of harms. Still do, I assume. But I thought it would be useful to look first at the constrained version of the scenario. Jewel conceded pretty early in the discussion that Mojo couldn't actually post a no-gays sign. He hasn't so far as I've noticed acceded to the full, below the radar scenario, but if we can sort out this constrained version, then perhaps we can deal constructively with the other. |
