SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Non-Tech : Income Investing

 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext  
To: codger who wrote (10809)7/4/2014 5:31:29 PM
From: mopgcw   of 52046
 
Re: re GST-B

the difference in the basis only changes the relative yields and the absolute nominal cashflows. it does not change the nominal differential between the scenarios.

Here is the math one should consider:

I bought gst in Oct @ par; sell in July for $28.50; reinvest in another security at 7.5% to the call date.



IRR NCF

Nov-13 Dec-13 Jan-14 Feb-14 Mar-14 Apr-14 May-14 Jun-14 Jul-14 Aug-14 Oct-18 Nov-18
Own to Call
11.29% 13,661

224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 25,224




































Sell Today
31.67% 5,516

224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 28,724 - - -


















Sell/Reinvst

11.88% 15,209

224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 - 191 191 28,691


Returns Net Cash Gross Cash
YTM 11.29% $13,661 $38,661
Exit Return 31.67% $5,516 $30,516
Total Return 11.88% $15,209 $40,209

Marginal improvement in returns on an IRR basis, $1,500 improvement in NCF before transaction costs and taxes (if any).

if set up the spreadhsheet correctly, you can then tweak the reinvestment rates, call dates/exit dates to understand the impact of the call, if it does not get called, and what rate/time you need to earn to be indifferent. you can also model different reinvestment scenarios at the call date to see the impacts.

in order for the swap to make sense, taking into account taxes and transaction costs, you have to believe:

1. GST will get called prior to the breakeven date

2. the current reinvestment is as safe/safer than the current investment in GST

3. you will be unable to invest at the current reinvestment rate or better that is assumed at the call date for the same or better risk profile, i.e. GST will get called and in Nov 18 one wont be able to buy something equivalent or safer and earn 7.5% (hence one's view of future rates and credit spreads is crucial).

if you change the basis to $26.25:


IRR NCF


Nov-13 Dec-13 Jan-14 Feb-14 Mar-14 Apr-14 May-14 Jun-14 Jul-14 Aug-14 Oct-18 Nov-18
Own to Call 9.92% 12,411


224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 25,224




































Sell Today 23.08% 4,266


224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 28,724 - - -


















Sell/Reinvest 10.56% 13,959


224 224 224 224 224 224 224 224 - 191 191 28,691

YTM 9.92% $12,411 $38,661
Exit Return 23.08% $4,266 $30,516
Total Return 10.56% $13,959 $40,209
Report TOU ViolationShare This Post
 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext