Hi Gustave, nice to hear you again. I think I should mention that all the information you posted was already mentioned by me in prior postings, except from the European oppinion poll that shows that some level of racism exists all over the EC. But my formulation tended to be tedious and maybe biased from lack of means of balanced expression in English. So thank you to post that professionally made information material.
For one thing I don't know whether this information was really needed, or, is at all useful, in order to excuse Belgium for the high rate of rightists in her ballots. On the other hand (and no joking anymore) your material read backwards shows there are some people inside Germany who have a consciousness of the xenophobia problem, and it is somehow publicly dealt with. Also it is implied that most of our inhabitants with foreign background could already become German citizens if only they were prepared to lay down their previous, e.g.Turkish citizenship. And you knew this already before you last claimed the opposite against me: Eddy Blinker told you so in the second half of March on the WWIII thread. He was right, and I was more detailed. It seemed to make you angry that some anti-german ressentiment of yours could not withstand facts once the details were shown up.
I do not oppose you when you say that there is xenophobia, and racism, in Germany. Nor would I oppose you on several other facts already mentioned in prior discussions. I still oppose you when you claim there is less xenophobic or cultural repression in Turkey than in Germany. Also I think you should concede that the state of media, and maybe especially the entertainment media, are not the right diagnostics for the state of the society. As the diagnosis, when taken from the media, for Germany would oppose the facts you gave.
So I am still wondering why you were Laughing Out Loud when you saw the Becker married couple (BTW was it your first time?). Is it direct laughter about the Beckers? Is it ironic laughter about Germany? If so (I assume it) whom do you want to provoke and to what exactly should I admit? Do you want to provoke any other specifc useful reaction from here? (Don't tell me it is this reaction I showed, because your postings seem to show you want that material publicly accessible. And I reacted previously in a similar way.)
Would you have laughed also when the couple was Belgian? And if so would tha laughter have depended on whether they came from the french or flemish part of Belgium? If you wouldn't have laughed at all in that case, I still think you had no reason for laughter but your preoccupiedness against Germany. Something must simply be wrong in our respective perceptions.
About Serbians who enter Germany seeking political asylum, I think they would actually have a good chance. Kosovo Albanians though would have a better chance, because the latter can claim there was state repression against them, the former ones can "only" state they come from a civil war region with paramilitary threat against their ethnic group.
Both of them could claim to be granted German citizenship on the ground that they might lose their lives if they return. This reason applies even when there was no political repression before the applicant left his home. For both groups it might be a difficulty if it was proven that the applicant himself has committed war crimes or crimes against humanity. But as things are, this would be nearly impossible to prove before a German court.
What would happen if they seek asylum in Belgium? (This is not mere rhethorics, it is a real question.)
Regards, MNI |
