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To: supergekko who wrote (1278)	6/14/1998 9:51:00 PM
From: savolainen	Read Replies (1) of 1998

[north rhine-westphalia] hi super g, thanks for the info.. in the last conference call tamir said two others had been involved in the dt trial which orctf was involved in.. sounded like north rhine-westphalia.. maybe these others were involved in early stages? seems like alcatel and maybe ericsson? think orctf has a good shot at dt because of their adsl over isdn and think cebit was encouraging... orctf management also said the trial went very well... tho as discussed earlier, the orctf getting the deployment is not a sure thing.. also just noticed that orctf is doing a presentation in germany on tuesday: JUNE 15-17 xDSL Maximizing Copper, Ramada Hotel, Dusseldorf Dan Arazi Presents: ADSL Marketing Trials in Europe (From Trial to Deployment), June 16, 16:00 For more information including from arazi:1. Conference day: "Experiences from the pilot project in North Rhine-Westphalia " iir-germany.com note: site is in german... following translation courtesy of babelfish.altavista.digital.com which has to be the coolest thing i've seen in a long long time... will translate webpages on demand/language to language... just choose languages and paste in text or just the the address (url) of the web page.. its a little squirrelly as it's beta, but tends to work if tried a few times.. "Discuss with experienced specialists over: XDSL market in Germany and in Europe International pilot projects Costs of DRL technologies Commercial application of xDSL xDSL and glass fiber networks xDSL and ISDN Multimedia applications and xDSL With contributions and practice reports of: ADSL forum NetCologne German Telekom AG Professional school gel churches Bosch Telecom GmbH Orckit German Telekom on-line service GmbH PTT Telcom DataConsult Gerhard Kafka EUTELIS CONSULT GmbH TeleLev telecommunications GmbH " and "xDSL in glass fiber link networks Areas of application of different xDSL techniques in the glass fiber network Service integration in glass fiber networks Migration strategies of pure copper networks to modern glass fiber networks Evolution strategies to future broadband services Cost comparison of modern glass fiber link networks with pure copper networks Sebastian Krems, Head OF Productmanagement ACCESS network, Bosch Telecom GmbH, Backnang " later s

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