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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: RON BL who wrote (132987)3/23/2001 9:14:48 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) of 769667
 
Marriage has also existed for the protection of society
at large. Marriage was considered a taming influence on the male to
help curb the lecherous beast.


I agree with you that that was probably part of the intent. I included only the two--children and family mergers--that seem to be to still remotely viable as marriage has evolved. Certainly it's in society's interest to deal with the power of that particular "beast." I just don't see how marriage is a particularly effective tool in that regard.

By marriage I'm talking about the legal state that results from the formalities of a civil process. I'm not talking about the relationship between two people that may or may not coincide with that legal state, only the legal state. Nor am I talking about the love, tradition, religiosity, and character that the parties bring to the relationship. I'm just talking about the legal state. I think that it has been distorted badly even before we throw in the complications of homosexual marriages. My point is not to advocate or deny them, only that the institution of marriage is already hopelessly screwed up.

What does the legal state of marriage mean in this time and place? It means a difference in income and estate taxes. It means a difference in insurance and credit rating. It means that a breakup takes more effort than one person moving his or her stuff out of the house. That's all it means legally. Anything else a couple values in a marriage is brought to the relationship by the parties and could exist with or without the legal process.

Ron, you could be living on the same block with couples who are not legally married. If they present themselves to society as a married couple, how would you ever know they weren't legally married? They could have some legal documents drawn up to handle their assets, their children's support, power of attorney, etc. independent of any marriage certificate. When was the last time that anyone required you to produce a marriage certificate? Ever?

The law treats unmarried couples and unmarried parents much the same. There's palimony on a break-up. There's custody judgment by a court whether or not the parents are married. The only real difference the legal certificate makes is with a couple of business transactions. The loveliness we associate with marriage can exist totally independent of that legal state.

The ugliness you talk about--the rapes, promiscuity, disease, absent fathers, etc. can also occur where there is a marriage certificate. Perhaps it's less likely, perhaps not, but the certificate is no defense against those things.

I think it's about time we realize the rift between our ideal of marriage and the legal considerations and figured out what, if anything, to do about it. The rift is permanent, at least as far as the eye can see. Pretending it's not there or that it can revert is playing the ostrich.

Karen
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