A lot of people realize there's something amiss with Israel/US policy and US/Israel policy. Myself, I think Israel does exert some influence but I'd be hard put to accept that Israel totally controls the US. There's also wide realization that Israel gets away with a lot of really nasty crap.
But...when someone rants against Israel in a way that very much resembles that of white supremacist groups and neonazi groups, it's not very conducive to discussion in a forward moving sense. If there are specific actions on the part of Israel/US relations that can be analyzed and brought forward relative to the events of 9/11 it's more constructive on this forum. Similar to the way the 9/11 anomolies are discussed here. The dancing Israelis being arrested then quietly released/deported is very curious. The Odigo warnings are curious. Having 9/11 result (so far) in the US moving into the ME in a big way does benefit Israel. But I think securing control of oil for the US plays a bigger role than securing it for Israel.
The ugly scene between Israel and Lebanon, from a "follow the money" (and arms) perspective reveals it to be a proxy war between the US and China where Lebanon is twice removed from China via Iran while Israel is only one step away from the US.
The initial military moves after 9/11 put bases and troops in a border region between China and the ME...Iraq, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Qatar, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan...
China wants ME oil too.
The Khazars and Israel
One version of the letter of King Joseph...said that the Khazars had a tradition that they were descended from the Tribe of Simeon. Eldad HaDani, (ca.850 CE), wrote that they came from Simeon and Menasseh. Other Jewish sources (e.g. Chronicle of Yerachmeel) mention the Tribes of Ephraim and Judah or of Nephtali and Dan though usually it is Simeon and Menasseh. The Cochin Scroll also says that the Khazars were descended from Simeon and Menasseh. At the peak of their history the Khazars controlled the area of the Don and Danaper Rivers and these rivers were referred to in Khazar times as “Sambation” and as “River of Sabt (i.e. “Shabat”), and in Jewish legend both terms are connected with the Lost Ten Tribes. Archaeological evidence has found Greek inscriptions bearing the name Sambation from the Don River region and dating from the pre-Christian era (Yair Davidiy, "Origin"). The Khazars had emerged from areas to which the Lost Ten Tribes were exiled or had moved to after their exile. The Khazars were related to other groups for whom independent proofs show an Israelite origin and so what is pertinent to them is pertinent also to the Khazars and vice-versa. The Khazars were linked especially with the Tribes of Simeon and Menasseh. They were identical with the Agathyrsi-proper who derived from the Clan of "Jeezer" son of Gilead son of Menasseh (Numbers 26:30). The name transliterated as "Jeezerites" ("Ha-Iy-ez-ri" in Hebrew), was probably pronounceable in Ancient Israel as "Ay-(g)a-zar", and the Agathyrsi were also known as "Acatzari", Khazari, and Gazari. Those of the Agathyrsi (Acatzari), who remained in Scythia, eventually formed the nucleus of the Khazar nation and a tradition exists, (related by Eldad HaDani in ca.800 CE and by the Cochin Scroll), that the Khazars came from the Tribes of Simeon and Menasseh. The Picts of Scotland also came from the Agathyrsi. Amongst the pre-Christian Picts and Scottish existed a taboo on pig meat and on other unclean animals prohibited by the Mosaic code (MacKenzie, see our article: "The Food Taboos of Old Scotland"). Later in Christian times the tradition existed that "Jews", or a "Type of Jew", had settled in Scotland. Similarly the Khazars, before their conversion, had had some kind of notion that they were of Israelite descent and had had some exposure to Mosaic lore. The "Jeezer" (i.e. "Ay-g-azar" of Gilead) origin of the Picts is consistent with the neighboring Caledonians, (with whom the Picts united), being also descended from Gilead and the very name Caledonian is derived from Gilead. Elements (such as those of Gilead) connected with Menasseh dominated Scotland and the west of Britain. From these areas later came an overwhelming proportion of the early British settlers of North America in its beginnings.
britam.org
(khä´zärz) (KEY) , ancient Turkic people who appeared in Transcaucasia in the 2d cent. A.D. and subsequently settled in the lower Volga region. They emerged as a force in the 7th cent. and rose to great power. The Khazar empire extended (8th–10th cent.) from the northern shores of the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea to the Urals and as far westward as Kiev. Itil, the Khazar capital in the Volga delta, was a great commercial center. The Khazars conquered the Volga Bulgars and the Crimea, levied tribute from the eastern Slavs, and warred with the Arabs, Persians, and Armenians. Religious tolerance was complete in the Khazar empire, which reached a relatively high degree of civilization. In the 8th cent. the Khazar nobility embraced Judaism, and Cyril and Methodius made some Christian converts among them in the 9th cent. In the 10th cent. the Khazars entered into friendly relations with the Byzantine Empire, which attempted to use them in the struggle against the Arabs. The Khazar empire fell when Sviatoslav, duke of Kiev, defeated its army in 965. The Khazars (or Chazars) are believed by some to have been the ancestors of many East European Jews.
bartleby.com
The slant within your references to Khazars appears to be that associated with white supremacists, neo-nazis and various hate groups.
I think there are probably various other forums for the subject...not this one though.
If new information on the dancing Israelis or the Odigo warnings come to light this is the place for it. |
