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Re <<it matters not who wins/loses.....they are all one>>
(1) very troubling possibility, because ...
(1-i) If 'they' are not supposed to be 'one', and folks believe 'they' are not 'one', and
(1-ii) 'they' are in truth 'one', then
(1-iii) 'they' are in truth the deep-state, and folks are wrong to premise otherwise, and if so ...
(1-iv) ... then the implications may be dire, whenever 'they' are wrong in any material way, and when so ...
(1-v) the 'freedoms' vaunted by the elmat are essentially meaningless coke vs pepsi protocol on a national level, especially if above possibility is particularly applicable to brazil, for example, irrespective of whether the add-ons such as corruption, procrastination, resource-curse and such same are systemic, ala culturally built-in, etc etc
(2) should we dialogue to delve into the above rabbit hole, the world may look very different especially if history is revised per possibility(ies)
(2-i) on this thread, according to elroy, most take to the assumption / conjecture / premise that 'they' are different, and that there is no 'deep-state', that which is more constant than not
(2-ii) china definitely has a deep-state, that which has operated for several thousand years, doing some stuff right and other stuff wrong.
(2-iii) at this juncture, the inflection point 1421 - 30, something definitely went wrong
(2-iv) but ... for the history-does-not-matter folks, i would be wrong, and 2001 Financial Collapse is no longer operative
(3) My read is that collapse is a process and not an event, and can go on for a long time
