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To: fingolfen who wrote (143605)9/17/2001 6:18:23 PM
From: Elmer   of 186894
 
Elmer, you're missing the point and making unwarranted assumptions. This isn't about political correctness, and using "Down with PC" as a rallying cry is only going to make an already tense situation worse. Someone with a Afghani, Syrian, Egyptian, Iranian, Pakistani, Libyan, etc. passport most likely SHOULD be considered a higher risk. I support that, and I honestly think it's going on to some degree. Someone named Ahmed with an American passport, however, should not be. That is the line that must be recognized and respected.

I didn't miss any point, you're essentially agreeing with me. But how will you know if Ahmed has an American passport if you aren't allowed to ask him save at the ticket counter?

Ali said in his original post, "Even in camps or schools. Therefore the fact of public victorious manifestations gives me the right to conclude that their whole society is seriously sick, and has to be contained or cured by all available means." Note he says "their whole society," please tell me how that is not racist and is merely being politically incorrect.

I have Ali on ignore, I don't see his posts. That is clearly racist and over the line. I'm not surprised though, that's why he's on ignore.

Let's take this a bit closer to home. What about the scores of religious conservatives who tacitly approve of the murder of an abortion provider? Someone used the "cockroach theory" earlier saying where you see five there are many in the background. Should we start profiling Baptists using the same logic?

Yes you should, depending on the nature of the threat. Where is the probability higher, in a Baptist Church or a Feminist gathering? That's the point. In a state of war what is more important, finding a terrorist with a nuclear weapon or worrying about offending someone? If every terrorist had a red hat on you wouldn't worry for a second about stopping people with red hats even though the majority were uninvolved. But as soon as race becomes a distinguishing characteristic we as a society are afraid to use that to profile suspects. We are tying our own hands with a ethic we can't afford to have in an extreme emergency. I'm not saying for a second that race becomes a factor of guilt, that _would_ be racist. I'm just saying that it is and should be a consideration for profiling under conditions of extreme emergency.

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