>Yes, I know.....and its my understanding Israel neutralized the threat of these attacks by establishing buffers in the form of the West Bank, Gaza and the Golan Hts. Furthermore, the Golan Hts is perfect for attacking Syria.
Israel never attacked Syria from the Golan. Syria, however, attacked Israel from them on many occasion when it belonged to it. So what's wrong with keeping those buffers anyway? The Golan isn't going back; it's been annexed and is recognized by the UN as such.
Z, I was just pointing out the G.Hts stategic value. I know that Israel has not provoked problems with Syria.
While I thought for a while that Israel should give the West Bank and Gaza to the Palestinians just to try to appease the world, now I'm not so sure...
I think that would be a mistake on Israel's part.
I guess I'll answer it both ways:
The Palestinans built the terrorist enterprise because Arafat really just wants all of Israel, and so does the rest of the Arab world.
They really started in '93 just because up until then, under Israeli rule, they weren't allowed to get any such enterprise off the ground, but once the PA took control, nothing was stopping them from doing so, and the PA encouraged and participated in it.
Either way, it looks like the Palestinians are hell bent on being terrorists. If that is true, then peace is impossible.....do you not agree?
In school, I read somewhere that you should always know the nature of your enemy before you attack them. I think the Israelis do not know the nature of theirs.
I think they do. They know that they have an enemy which wants to fight them to the bitter end, no matter what.
You and most Israelis believe that......I wonder if that's the entire truth.
>Along with you, I think many Israelis believe this but I believe that thinking is wrong. I think despair is the ultimate catalyst for the suicide bombers......dispair and a loss of hope. That's what killed many in the WWII camps; not lice, vermin, dysentery, etc. They gave up on the notion of ever living a normal life again.
Ummm... what about gas chambers, guns, live burials, etc...? Most people in the camps didn't know what was in for them... they were told that they were being held until they were taken to another place... of course, most of them were killed.
And despair and hopelessness killed many of the rest. Its important to note that.
>Humans can survive impossible odds, but without hope, they wither away and die very quickly. I think the Palestinians, especially the teenagers whose view of the world is limited by their age, have given up hope that things can ever be better. After all, they have been in their camps for over a generation now.
Well, first off, they're in camps because the Arab leaders have dictated that they're to remain there. The Arab leaders want millions of Palestinians chomping at the bit to get back to Israel. Note that the only Arab country that will allow them citizenship is Jordan. Also note that at the Arab summit a couple of weeks ago, it was said that as soon as the right of return is enacted, the Palestinians are to be expelled from the countries in which they are now living (in refugee camps).
It seems that the Palestinians are in the same place the Jews were before the founding of Israel........ironic, huh?
Their government teaches them to hate. Their schoolbooks preach violent anti-semitism as well as suicide attacks. Arafat praises martyrdom. The Palestinians hated Israel long before Israel took over the West Bank and Gaza. The Arabs hated the Jews long before Israel was established!
Oh, and as for the despair, check out this article:
danielpipes.org
>Huh? The death toll is 3 to 1 in favor[?] of the Palestinians. Military grade or fertilizer, the Palestinians ability to fight back appears to be limited.
Just a few years ago, it was 10 to 1, and shortly before, 20 to 1. Israel shouldn't have to wait until it's on the ropes to fight back. If it doesn't fight back now, that day might not be too far off.
Why do you think the ratio keeps getting smaller?
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