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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (159345)3/20/2005 9:29:48 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Barnett is an ironic citation on this topic. From command-post.org

My problem with this description, as I've noted many times in my blog, is that it conflates two concepts: regime takedown and the post-conflict stabilization / nation-building effort. I call the former, the "war," and the latter, the "peace." So, in my more careful lexicon, I say that Rumsfeld was arguing—and arguing correctly—about how to "win the war," while Shinseki was arguing—and arguing correctly—about how to "win the peace." command-post.org

But Shinseki is the canonical citation on more troops, resolutely badmouthed by the innermost circle of the people who had to have the war, and have it their way. Also pretty definitely an "old Army" type. Of course, badmouthing the US uniformed military leadership was a integral part of the pre-war propaganda campaign. "Perfumed Princes" was, I believe, the fashionable term among the local "intellectually honest" war cheerleaders.
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