SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Strategies & Market Trends : Options

 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext  
To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (1508)1/24/2000 3:22:00 PM
From: RoseCampion   of 8096
 
Rose, bad deal on those calls...One thing I wonder: could you have just waited for the market to close, and then sold them in the after-market? Doesn't the options market stay open for a minute or so beyond 4 p.m.? That would have given you a print based on underlying close, I guess.

Well, trying to get an options order in and executed between 4:00 and 4:02 on expiration Friday is not exactly a sure proposition, as crazy as things are then - and even if it was recognized, it would effectively have been treated exactly the same as a "sell on close" order entered earlier in the day. In fact, Fido won't take "at the close" orders after 3:40PM anyways; you have to use a regular market or limit order if you want to sell between 3:40 and 4:02 on any trading day.

Sounds like instead what fido did instead was fill you "close to the close" instead of "at close".

Well, they claim (and I would guess it's true) that _all_ "at the close" orders are more accurately described as "send to the exchange and they will execute it as near to the close as possible, with no other guarantees" orders.

The Q got very crazy near the close and orders took a long time to fill

Updates so far: I contacted Fido, where the Options Connection rep entered an "investigation request", but also suggested I contact the "Market Surveilliance" group at the Pacific Coast Options Exchange, where my contracts were all executed. I did that (on Friday afternoon), and I found everyone there to be extremely helpful, responsive, and amazingly willing to listen to the specifics of my complaint. This morning I got a 7AM call back from someone in customer service there, saying the main QCOM options specialist there would call me back later today. Amazingly, he did just that, and I had a good discussion with him about the Q action on Friday's close. He is proposing specific "relief" that would go a long way to addressing my concern; I will wait until I'm sure that it's going to happen before posting more details (and his explanations, which make complete sense) here, but already I'm much further along with much less hassle than I expected to be.

-Rose-
Report TOU ViolationShare This Post
 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext