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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: TimF who wrote (181584)1/27/2004 12:22:06 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) of 1576892
 
2 - We are not trying to set up a puppet government and make Iraq effectively part of an empire.

Our very presence is a threat.

If you mean a threat that we may potentially try to fold Iraq in to an American empire the threat is slight indeed. If the mere existance of any threat was enough, that threat existed before Bush ordered the soldiers to attack. In any case my point remains valid unlike the USSR in Afghanistan we are not trying to effectivly make Iraq part of an American empire.


First, you don't know what Bush, and more importantly, Cheney have planned for Iraq. They tend to say one thing and do another.

Secondly, Iraq has had a history of occupation by foreign powers. Each time Iraq got the royal screw. I'm sure they are fearful of the worst once again.

3 - There is no active superpower help for the opposition and there is less help from other nations that are not superpowers.

Not yet......how long do you think it will be before the larger Arab nations begin to support the insurgents?

That still won't be superpower help. And to directly answer your question I don't think any country in the region will aid the opposition in Iraq as much as Pakistan and other countries aided the mujahideen in Afghanistan.


I would be very surprised if you turn out to be right. I think Iran already may be giving some aid to the insurgents.

However, American soldiers much like the Russians have not been all that effective when it comes to fighting the insurgents.

They have been extremely effective at fighting the insurgents.


Such bs........where did you get that line.....straight from the Nat. Review or FOX?

American soldiers have been able to reduce the number of incidents but the insurgents have become more effective with fewer hits, using more technologically advanced equipment. Even the lead general in Iraq says that.

BTW where do you think they are getting their advanced weaponry?



7 - The terrain is more favorable.

The terrain in the north of Iraq is the same.

Its hilly but overall Afghanistan is a lot more rugged, and even in the north you don't have something like the Hindu Kush. For that matter the most mountainous regions of Iraq are controlled by the Kurds who have shown the least opposition to the US. The area where we are meeting the most opposition varies from river valley to flat to somewhat hilly but it isn't an area of serious mountains.

Any other differences are neutralized by the Iraqi heat in summer. In case you hadn't noticed, our guys are really flagging under that heat.

The heat effects both sides. The Iraqis are a bit more used to it but much of our training is done in the desert.

Also see
weather.cnn.com

Baghdad 56°F (13°C)
5 DAY FORECAST High/ Low
Monday
62°F (17°C) | 33°F (1°C)
Tuesday
57°F (14°C) | 34°F (1°C)
Wednesday
56°F (13°C) | 35°F (2°C)
Thursday
63°F (17°C) | 42°F (6°C)
Friday
63°F (17°C) | 43°F (6°C


This is the temps in winter......that will change to 90º/29º by April at the latest. Its the heat and stress that caused the Gulf War Syndrome for many of the soldiers who fought in Kuwait. Why do you think the suicide rate is up in Iraq? Its due to the heat and having to wear/carry 50 lbs of equipment coupled with the dangerous activity of the insurgents ever constant.

Iraqis are not just used to the heat; they have had centuries to become acclimated........big difference!

ted
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