Al, I was responding to Ted's comment as follows:
The Clintons saw Saddam as a threat but they did not propose that we go to war over it.
The linked article did not comport with Ted's statement, which was why I posted it.
To answer your question, however, I don't think Clinton was actually prepared to back up his threats of war at that time, despite his comments, which itself may have been a problem. He did authorize bombing and no doubt there were casualties.
Consequently, there was probably no set of circumstances when Clinton would actually have done it, unless he put his finger to the wind and found overwhelming public support. But the fact remains, he talked about it and rattled plenty of sabres.
I guess the principal difference between me and many on this thread is that I am not prepared to accept the claim that Bush "lied" to get us into the current Iraq war. Nor am I comfortable with the notion that we are an evil war mongering nation no better than terrorists. The latter POV seemed implicit in the article Ted linked, which is what drew my initial response.
All in all, my position is that I want the US to succeed in Iraq and get the country restored to normalcy with its own internal democratically appointed government.
Fighting over whether we should have gone in in the first place is largely based on 20/20 hindsight and political debate during this election season. Obviously there are many who dislike Bush and object to his policies. I just see a difference between political rhetoric and divisive arguments that prevent the country from keeping its collective eye on the ball as to how best to solve the current Iraq situation.
In other words, the war is a fait accompli. Let's deal with the situation we have now. In this, even Ted agreed with me.
Some, like Ted, hated Bush before the invasion of Iraq, and have stoked that hatred into an inferno. It didn't matter what Bush did in office. Ted would have wanted him out regardless. He's certainly free to hold that opinion.
I just take issue with some of the rhetoric and argumentation he employs in support of his political views. If you carefully read our exchanges, you will understand my POV in that regard.
I've voted both Democrat and Republican in my life. I take it election by election and candidate by candidate. I will tell you, however, that I find the extremes on both sides of the political spectrum to be a major turn off. At this juncture, the Democratic contenders appear to be so far left that I find none to be inspirational.
Kerry is the consummate politician and Washington insider. He tries to be all things to all people. I tend to look more at what's he's done vs. what he says about what he'll do. Too many flip flops.
Besides, American Spirit gushes over Kerry so much that he couldn't possibly be the right man for the job..<g> |