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Politics : Actual left/right wing discussion
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To: JBTFD who wrote (1928)9/27/2006 7:08:33 PM
From: TimF   of 10087
 
The sentence in that post could be interpreted as claiming that the rich as paying more taxes because of the tax cuts. If you interpret the post that way it still isn't lying with numbers. Its not using the other stats to try to prove that conclusion. Its making a number of assertions. All the other assertions are simply reporting statistics (and not manipulations of them in dishonest ways), they are not attempts to prove the sentence that you disagree with. That sentence isn't a conclusion based on the other numbers. Its a debatable assertion, not an example of statistical manipulation.

Its like when in other posts I have said that in the very long run, tax cuts tend to increase the amount of taxes paid. I based this assertion on another assertion that all else being equal tax cuts tend to increase economic growth. The additional growth may be small, and if so it might take a long time for it to result in higher revenues at the new higher tax rates, but if the lower taxes are sustained indefinitely, then eventually higher revenue should result. (Note I'm assuming only broad based taxes, changing narrow taxes doesn't have the same effects on economic growth).

Is my assertion proven? No. Could it be debated? Yes. Is it a lie, or is it manipulative? No.
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