SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext  
To: Yousef who wrote (201943)9/15/2004 3:49:02 AM
From: Amy J   of 1573826
 
Yousef, RE: "Because the USA was founded by people who had a "faith in God".

========================================================
news.messages.yahoo.com.

"The government of the United States is not,
in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." Georege Washington, Treaty of Tripoli, 1796

========================================================

... here is what the Founders stated:

George Washington stated several times that the United States were NOT founded on the ideals of Christianity.

Benjamin Franklin spoke of the evils of a nation that endorses only one brand of religion.

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."
-Thomas Jefferson

"The Bible is not my book and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long complicated statements of Christian dogma."
-Abraham Lincoln

"Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his Maker, in which no other, and far less the PUBLIC, had a right to intermeddle."
--Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1813.

"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?"
- John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816

"It is not to be understood that I am with him (Jesus Christ) in all his doctrines. I am a Materialist; he takes the side of Spiritualism; he preaches the efficacy of repentence toward forgiveness of sin; I require a counterpoise of good works to redeem it. Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others, again, of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being."
- Thomas Jefferson to W. Short, 1820

"I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works ... I mean real good works ... not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing ... or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity."
- Benjamin Franklin Works, Vol. VII, p. 75

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."
- Benjamin Franklin

James Madison (the fourth President of the United States)

Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments:
“Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise....During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence
in the clergy; ignorance and servility in laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and
persecution.”

Additional quote from James Madison:
“Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
news.messages.yahoo.com.
======================================================

Re: "If all Muslim countries are so bad for women, how come many countries populated with Muslims have had women Presidents?" Come on Amy ... Women in certain Muslim countries cannot vote, drive cars or show their face in public. They are considered to be property. I can't believe you want to "defend" Middle East Muslim treatment of women."

Since when is Indonesia, Malaysia, and Bangladesh located in the Middle East?

Please explain why Muslim countries can have a female President, while the USA has not.

Regards,
Amy J
Report TOU ViolationShare This Post
 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext