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1. More hand-wringing about euro's rise, and some speculation about intervention From: GATAComm@aol.com 2. Ted Butler: Do-Or-Die Time Coming Up? From: GATAComm@aol.com 3. If you read The Gartman Letter, here's something else you may have missed From: GATAComm@aol.com 4. Is front-running for the new bullion fund pushing up gold's price? From: GATAComm@aol.com 5. Rising interest rates may not bother gold much From: GATAComm@aol.com 6. Noranda stops negotiating exclusively with China's Minmetals From: GATAComm@aol.com 7. Debt doubles at agency that insures U.S. pension plans From: GATAComm@aol.com 8. CBSMarketWatch says gold ETF is expected to launch Thursday From: GATAComm@aol.com 9. Mark Gilbert: U.S. is happily devaluing its way out of its trade deficit From: GATAComm@aol.com 10. Are you paying storage fees on silver that doesn't exist? From: GATAComm@aol.com
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 01:23:02 -0000 From: GATAComm@aol.com Subject: More hand-wringing about euro's rise, and some speculation about intervention
Euro Holds Near Record; Ministers Fail to Request ECB Sales
By Joshua Krongold and Mark Tannenbaum Bloomberg News Service Tuesday, November 16, 2004
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The euro traded within a half cent of a record against the dollar after European finance ministers failed to ask the European Central Bank to sell the currency for the first time to stem its advance.
"We didn't ask the ECB anything," said Dutch Finance Minister Gerrit Zalm late yesterday, after chairing a euro-region finance ministers' meeting in Brussels. The euro has risen 4 percent in the past month, spurring European finance ministers to complain its rally may hamper economic growth.
The European currency was little changed at $1.2956 at 5 p.m. in New York, after reaching a record high three times in the past two weeks, according to electronic foreign-exchange dealing system EBS. The dollar was also little changed at 105.34 yen, after dropping to a seven-month low of 105.17 yesterday.
"They want to indicate that they are unhappy about the euro's rise, but don't want to signal that a determined effort is imminent," said Robert Sinche, Bank of America's head of currency strategy in New York. He expects the euro to rise to a record $1.32 by year-end. The euro is up 2.9 percent this year.
Shares of European exporters, including Philips Electronics NV, fell on concern that the euro's appreciation will erode the value of sales in the United States. The Dow Jones Stoxx 600 Index shed 0.7 percent to 247.24.
Exports account for a fifth of the euro region's economy, which grew in the third quarter at the slowest pace in more than a year. Juergen Hambrecht, chief executive officer of BASF AG, said on Nov. 11 the euro's advance "may become a major issue." Exports make up a third of German gross domestic product, Europe's largest economy.
The euro's advance is "a worry," Belgian Finance Minister Didier Reynders said late yesterday in Brussels following the ministers' meeting. At least six ECB council members, including bank President Jean-Claude Trichet, in the past week said recent currency moves were unwelcome.
"If the ECB were very serious about this, we'd have to see some intervention," said Steven Saywell, a currency strategist at Citigroup Inc. in London. "Barring that, or a cut in interest rates, which would seem to be a very low priority, I don't think there's very much we can expect from the ECB."
Saywell predicted the euro will strengthen to a record $1.33 in three months, about 3 cents above its current all-time high of $1.3006, reached on Nov. 10.
"The more the euro rises, the more voices will start asking for intervention," said EU Monetary Commissioner Joaquin Almunia in an interview yesterday in Brussels. "It has to be a coordinated effort but it seems that our friends across the Atlantic aren't interested."
European complaints will fail to halt the euro's rally, said Sonja Marten, a currency strategist at Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein in Frankfurt. "For a while the market gets scared and then after a while you move on."
ECB policy makers may sell the euro should the currency move "quickly" toward $1.35, Marten said. "I don't know when the market is going to have the guts to move above $1.30 and challenge the ECB, but I don't see us going back down."
Economic growth in the 12-nation euro region was 0.3 percent in the third quarter, the slowest in more than a year, as the euro's gain eroded exporters' profit.
U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow told reporters yesterday in Dublin that "a strong dollar is in America's interest." Markets, not governments, set foreign-exchange rates best, he said. Snow's comments came three days after one of his aides, on condition of anonymity, said currency markets are operating in an orderly, favorable way.
Comments by U.S. officials over the past few months suggest "they're quite happy" with the dollar's decline, said Jason Bonanca, a currency strategist in New York at Credit Suisse First Boston. "We can see one more leg of dollar weakness" to $1.32 per euro by year-end, he said.
The dollar is down about 22 percent since President George W. Bush took office in January 2001, according to the Federal Reserve's Trade-Weighted Major Currency Dollar Index.
The U.S. currency's recent decline may stall, based on a technical indicator some traders use to gauge a currency's likely direction. The dollar's 14-day relative strength index against the euro is at 67.3, after closing last week at 70.9. The index shows how rapidly prices have risen or fallen in a given period. A level above 70 suggests an exchange rate may decline.
The number of investors who consider the dollar to be overvalued fell by almost half in November, according to a Merrill Lynch & Co. survey. A net 24 percent of investors questioned in the survey said the U.S. currency is overvalued, compared with 43 percent in October, according to the survey, published in London.
The dollar failed to advance even after the Treasury Department said international investors increased purchases of U.S. assets in September by $63.4 billion, the most since June.
"It would have needed to have been over 100 to turn sentiment on the dollar around," said David Mann, a currency strategist at Standard Chartered Plc in London.
Hedge funds and other large speculators placed record bets on the euro to gain against the dollar in the week to Nov. 9, U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission figures showed yesterday.
The difference in the number of wagers placed by futures traders on an advance in the euro compared with those on a drop -- so-called net longs -- was 57,529 on Nov. 9, the CFTC said, the most since the euro's 1999 debut.
Japan's currency fell from its strongest in seven months after the Cabinet Office said it grew more pessimistic about the Japanese economy in November for the first time in 17 months, citing a slowdown in exports and industrial production.
Growth in the Japanese economy, the world's second largest, slowed to an annual pace of 0.3 percent in the third quarter from a revised 1.1 percent in the previous three months.
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:32:47 -0000 From: GATAComm@aol.com Subject: Ted Butler: Do-Or-Die Time Coming Up?
By Ted Butler November 9, 2004 www.InvestmentRarities.com
A close reading of the current Commitments of Traders Report (COT), including an extrapolation since the Tuesday cutoff, indicates that we are still at a bearish extreme in gold and silver. Yes, there was technical fund liquidation and dealer short covering in the latest report, but that activity clearly took place on the big down day on November 2. Subsequently, it appears that the tech funds came rushing back onto the long side (with the dealers going short) at higher prices. The tech funds are still buying high and selling low, the dealers are doing the opposite.
Basically, there are only two ways for this big tech fund long/dealer short position to play out. One party will have to be the aggressor. Either the tech funds liquidate at lower prices, or the dealers cover at higher prices. No one knows which it will be. We do know that, in gold and silver, the dealers have never panicked and covered shorts at higher prices. Certainly, there is little or no visible evidence that the dealers are about to panic here. But, they could, particularly in silver, and my sense is we would get little warning.
The reason I analyze the COTs is to identify low or high-risk points in the market. I hope I have been clear that this type of analysis is short-term in nature, and to a long-term silver investor the COTs matter little. And long-term is the right way to go. Still, trying to divine the basic rhythms of the markets is a compelling intellectual attraction. Because I've seen the COTs play out in a certain repetitive way for many years (with variations, of course), it's hard for me to ignore them.
Over the past year there have been several ultra-low and ultra-high-risk points in silver and gold as defined by the COTs. The most recent low-risk point was back in mid-September. (See my commentary "The Setup?"). Since that point silver has rallied more than 20 percent in price ($1.25+ per oz). But it has been tech fund net buying of almost 35,000 Comex futures contracts, or 175 million ounces, that caused the rally. In gold, almost 80,000 net contracts were bought by the funds since the September lows. It is the addition of these contracts that caused the price to rise and greatly increase the risk of a tech fund flush-out to the downside.
This doesn't mean, of course, that the funds WILL get flushed out. As I said, no one knows how it will play out. But we are at an extreme juncture. It doesn't hurt, even for a long-term silver investor, to recognize that, at least for mental preparation in volatile markets. It's always dollars to the upside in silver but not always a couple of dimes to the downside. Can silver explode in price from here? Of course. Can silver get smacked down with tech fund liquidation? Also of course.
The current situation is more extreme than usual, in my opinion. It's almost as if the dealers are in a "do or die" situation. We have a confluence of forces that are superimposed upon the extreme COT position.
For one, we have a very heavy Comex option expiration in gold and silver on November 23. This is the one month when gold and silver have a concurrent option expiration. Normally the major option months are staggered. The amount of call options that is and could get "into the money" at current or higher gold and silver prices is massive. I don't recall an option expiration cycle with such heavy numbers of call options in both gold and silver threatening to go live if prices remain steady or move moderately higher. If this were to occur, tremendous additional pressure could be placed upon the dealers.
Likewise, December is the largest futures delivery month and the only concurrent major futures month shared by gold and silver. The delivery process begins on November 30, one week after the options settlement. Considering the current one-year lows in the level of COMEX silver inventories, it is not hard to imagine a "tight" December delivery process. That tightness would only be exacerbated if the short position going into the first delivery day was swollen with a full tech fund long position and unusual in-the-money option exercises. Additionally, the recent purchase of 5 million ounces by the Central Fund of Canada (not 6 million, as I reported originally) creates a tighter overall physical market.
In short, the stakes are much higher for the dealers than is usually the case at extreme COT points -- especially considering that the leader of the silver wolf pack, AIG, has apparently departed. If the dealers were to ever get overrun, these unusual additional factors would seem to add to that likelihood.
Amazingly, the total gross short position in Comex silver (futures plus call options as of November 8) is the highest in recent memory, at 198,000 contracts. That's the equivalent of 990 million ounces. This is a billion-ounce paper short position that is much larger than the 600 million ounces in world production and maybe 150 million ounces in known bullion inventories combined. Try to find another commodity with that configuration. You won't.
Because the stakes are unusually high for the dealers, they will be working overtime to engineer a sharp selloff. If such a selloff does materialize, it should set up a tremendous low-risk buying opportunity.
If I knew which way this bloated COT position was going to be resolved, I would tell you. The simple truth is that no one can know. All we can do is observe and prepare. So instead of worrying about how the market may behave in the short term, prepare, emotionally and financially, for any outcome. And concentrate on what we do know -- namely, in a commodity deficit prices must eventually rise to eliminate that deficit.
Fortunately, there is one simple and best solution that overrules all short-term uncertainty and allows us to capture the certainty of the long term. That simple and best solution is unencumbered physical silver. There are no contingencies or "what-ifs" with real silver. There are no worries about what could go wrong. No concerns over short-term price fluctuations. When the law of supply and demand triumphs in silver, there will be no unexpected surprises for those holding real silver.
In has been my observation, almost universal among those who own real silver, that they tend to disregard the impact of short-term price movements upon their real silver holdings. This is the way it should be.
In fact, it's kind of funny. I talk to people with big physical silver holdings who are very concerned with short-term price movements, but only for the possible impact on short-term speculative holdings. Their physical silver holdings are thought of very differently. It's as if we are talking about different commodities. We are. One is paper and one is real. One is uncertain in the short term, the other is certain for the long term.
I hope and wish for everyone to look at silver this way.
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:47:42 -0000 From: GATAComm@aol.com Subject: If you read The Gartman Letter, here's something else you may have missed
"Conspiracies rarely exist."
-- Dennis Gartman in The Gartman Letter, September 14, 2004
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Zurich Financial Underwriters Plead Guilty in Probe
By Philipp Goellner and Eric Moskowitz Bloomberg News Service Tuesday, November 16, 2004
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Two underwriters at Zurich Financial Services AG, the third-biggest U.S. commercial insurer, pleaded guilty to charges they helped rig bids to help an insurance broker give business to favored clients.
The two men, John Keenan and Edward Coughlin, worked exclusively with Marsh & McLennan Cos., according to plea agreements at their arraignment today in New York State Supreme Court. The pleas bring to five the number of people who have admitted roles in the illegal business practices under investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer.
"The investigation is proceeding carefully and methodically," Spitzer said in a statement. "Our goal is to determine the full extent of wrongdoing in the industry and its effect on consumers."
More than 17 people, including Marsh Chief Executive Jeffrey Greenberg, have been fired or suspended since Spitzer sued Marsh, the world's largest insurance broker, on Oct. 14. Spitzer and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, expanding the probe beyond bid rigging, this week sent new subpoenas to insurers such as St. Paul Travelers Cos., seeking to determine whether they are selling policies to help companies hide losses.
Keenan and Coughlin each pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor under New York State's Donnelly Act, which bars agreements in restraint of trade. They face a maximum sentence of one year in state prison.
The two employees no longer work at the company, said Zurich spokesman Keith Owens. Keenan and Coughlin were part of an unspecified number of employees in the excess-casualty unit suspended last week, Owens said.
Keenan and Coughlin, who worked exclusively with Marsh Global Broking between 2002 and 2004, are expected to testify in future cases, Spitzer's office said. Supreme Court Judge James Yates set a trial date for Keenan and Coughlin of Jan. 27, 2005.
"I don't think the attorney general's office is going to bring any of these cases to trial," said Lewis Weiner, an attorney for Coughlin. "They're squeezing these low-level people and that's not right."
Marsh spokeswoman Barbara Perlmutter declined to comment on today's plea agreements. Zurich said it's being helped in its investigation by the New York-based law firm LeBoeuf, Lamb, Greene & MacRae LLP. LeBoeuf spokesman Stephen DiCarmine declined to comment.
In his complaint against Marsh, Spitzer said insurers inflated quotes as part of a phony bidding system Marsh designed to steer business to the insurers that paid it the highest fees. Two executives from American International Group Inc. and one from Ace Ltd. pleaded guilty last month in connection with the Marsh accusations.
Zurich won a contract two years ago to insure an $800 million school project in Greenville, South Carolina, according to the Marsh suit. Marsh, which brokered the deal, gave the contract to Zurich because it expected the insurer to pay a lucrative fee, Spitzer's complaint said. Zurich wasn't named as a defendant in the suit.
Spitzer filed his second complaint in the probe last week, suing Universal Life Resources Inc., a closely held broker based in San Diego. That suit linked UnumProvident Corp., MetLife Inc., and Prudential Financial Inc. to price fixing and payoffs, bringing the total number of companies identified in the collusion to nine.
The subpoena sent to St. Paul is part of a wider investigation into non-traditional, or loss-mitigation, insurance products. Ace received similar subpoenas yesterday. A federal grand jury is probing a policy that American International sold to Indianapolis cell-phone distributor Brightpoint Inc. that the SEC said allowed the company to mask losses.
Regulators are studying whether some policies can provide financing like a loan while being accounted for as insurance.
Spitzer and other state officials told a U.S. Senate panel today that alleged abuses they found in the insurance industry indicate the need for more federal oversight, including tougher antitrust rules.
Industry groups told the same panel that fees that form the core of Spitzer's suit against Marsh are part of standard business practices.
"It's an incentive to bring in good business," said Ernst Csiszar, president of the Property Casualty Insurers Association of America. "The idea is we need better disclosure.
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Blanchard & Co. Inc. 909 Poydras St., Suite 1900 New Orleans, Louisiana 70112 888-413-4653 blanchardonline.com
Centennial Precious Metals 3033 East 1st Ave., Suite 403 Denver, Colorado 80206 www.USAGold.com Michael Kosares, Proprietor US (800) 869-5115 Canada 1-800-294-9462 European Union 00-800-2760-2760 Australia 0011-800-2760-2760 cpm@usagold.com
Colorado Gold 222 South 5th St. Montrose, Colorado 81401 www.ColoradoGold.com Don Stott, Proprietor 1-888-786-8822 Gold@gwe.net
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Investment Rarities Inc. 7850 Metro Parkway Minneapolis, Minnesota 55425 gloomdoom.com Greg Westgaard, Sales Manager 1-800-328-1860, Ext. 8889 gwestgaard@investmentrarities.com
Kitco 178 West Service Road Champlain, N.Y. 12919 Toll Free:1-877-775-4826 Fax: 518-298-3457 and 620 Cathcart, Suite 900 Montreal, Quebec H3B 1M1 Canada Toll-free:1-800-363-7053 Fax: 514-875-6484 kitco.com
Lee Certified Coins P.O. Box 1045 454 Daniel Webster Highway Merrimack, New Hampshire 03054 www.certifiedcoins.com Ed Lee, Proprietor 1-800-835-6000 leecoins@aol.com
Miles Franklin Ltd. 3015 Ottawa Ave. South St. Louis Park, Minn. 55416 1-800-822-8080 / 952-929-1129 fax: 952-925-0143 milesfranklin.com Contacts: David Schectman, Andy Schectman, and Bob Sichel
Missouri Coin Co. 11742 Manchester Road St. Louis, MO 63131-4614 info@mocoin.com 314-965-9797 1-800-280-9797 mocoin.com
Resource Consultants Inc. 6139 South Rural Road Suite 103 Tempe, Arizona 85283-2929 Pat Gorman, Proprietor 1-800-494-4149, 480-820-5877 Metalguys@aol.com
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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:58:16 -0000 From: GATAComm@aol.com Subject: Is front-running for the new bullion fund pushing up gold's price?
9:54p ET Tuesday, November 16, 2004
Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:
Resource Investor's Tim Wood speculates that the impending launch of the World Gold Council's bullion fund in New York has prompted front- running that is supporting the gold price, and he quotes gold's perennial disparager, Mitsui's Andy Smith, as predicting a collapse in the gold price once the front-running is out of the way. Wood adds that his own expectation is otherwise, given the awfulness of the alternative to gold, the dollar.
You can find Wood's report here:
resourceinvestor.com
CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.
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Kitco 178 West Service Road Champlain, N.Y. 12919 Toll Free:1-877-775-4826 Fax: 518-298-3457 and 620 Cathcart, Suite 900 Montreal, Quebec H3B 1M1 Canada Toll-free:1-800-363-7053 Fax: 514-875-6484 kitco.com
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 03:58:57 -0000 From: GATAComm@aol.com Subject: Rising interest rates may not bother gold much
10:57p ET Tuesday, November 16, 2004
Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:
This CBSMarketWatch story is interesting for its comment that, as Jim Sinclair has been saying, rising interest rates are no threat to gold, since they always trail the true inflation rate and make more trouble for gold's competitors, paper investments.
CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.
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Gold Futures Climb Back to 1988 Levels
By Myra P. Saefong CBSMarketWatch.com Tuesday, November 16, 2004
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SAN FRANCISCO -- Gold futures climbed above $440 an ounce to close at their highest level since 1988 Tuesday, as signs of inflation sparked fresh investor interest in the precious metal.
"Gold has legs to move," based on the reported 1.7 percent climb in the producer price index last month -- the most since January 1990, said John Person, president of National Futures Advisory Service.
"Interest rates are still relatively inexpensive, which makes gold a favorite hedge against a rise in the U.S. dollar," he said. "The Fed raises rates to combat inflationary pressures, but they risk choking off the economy's growth momentum, so this makes buying gold even that much more attractive as many doubt they will be overly aggressive in their interest rate-hiking campaign."
Against this backdrop, gold for December delivery closed at $440.50 an ounce on the New York Mercantile Exchange, up $3.20 for the session after tapping a high of $441.40 earlier. Prices haven't traded at these levels since July 1988.
"Earnings last quarter for companies in the S&P 500 Index rose about 17 percent based on the share-weighted average of the 462 companies that released results by Nov. 12" -- that's the smallest increase since the second quarter of 2003, said Person.
"This shows that earnings are decelerating, and that shows the economy is definitely going to be struggling," he said.
Combined with the PPI data, it all "spells trouble ahead for the Fed, which must try to balance inflation while not curtailing the economy's growth momentum," said Person.
"If the Fed sees inflation as a threat, they will aggressively raise rates -- that is bad for stocks and bonds, but supportive for gold," he explained. The situation would make gold more attractive "as a hedge against losses in paper assets, until the Fed takes control of the situation."
From here, Kevin Kerr, president of Kerr Trading International, expects prices to climb to $475. "Interest rate fears are driving this market and it looks like little will put the brakes on the rally," he said.
If prices break through the $446 to $450 level, "there's little doubt that the market will continue on its track for $500 and beyond," said Dale Doelling, chief market commentator at Bullion.com in Chicago.
All in all, the factors are "ripe" for a continued increase in gold, said Michael Cuggino, portfolio manager of Permanent Portfolio Funds.
Elsewhere in metals futures, silver and copper ended mixed Tuesday. December silver rose 2 cents to close at $7.592 an ounce. December copper closed at $1.369 a pound, down 1.85 cents.
Tracking inventories, copper supplies were down 160 short tons at 41,861 short tons as of late Monday, according to Nymex. Silver stocks were unchanged at 102.2 million, while gold inventories stood at 5.35 million troy ounces, also unchanged from the previous session.
Meanwhile, the January platinum contract lost $8.40 to end the day at $868.90 an ounce after a report from metals refiner and marketer Johnson Matthey said platinum supply will likely outpace demand in 2005 for the first time in six years.
For the current year, platinum demand will likely grow less than 1 percent to 6.47 million ounces while supplies will be up 230,000 ounces at 6.43 million ounces.
December palladium closed at $222 an ounce, up $2.50. The palladium market is set for another 1 million-ounce surplus in 2004, the Johnson Matthey report said.
In equities, metals mining shares recovered from Monday's declines, pulling key indexes for the sector to fresh highs.
The CBOE Gold Index closed at 98.66, up 1.8 percent for the session. It closed at its highest level since mid-1997.
The Philadelphia Gold and Silver Index rose 1.5 percent to end at 108.68 and the Amex Gold Bugs Index closed at 240.89, up 1.7 percent. Both indexes traded around their highest levels since January.
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Blanchard & Co. Inc. 909 Poydras St., Suite 1900 New Orleans, Louisiana 70112 888-413-4653 blanchardonline.com
Centennial Precious Metals 3033 East 1st Ave., Suite 403 Denver, Colorado 80206 www.USAGold.com Michael Kosares, Proprietor US (800) 869-5115 Canada 1-800-294-9462 European Union 00-800-2760-2760 Australia 0011-800-2760-2760 cpm@usagold.com
Colorado Gold 222 South 5th St. Montrose, Colorado 81401 www.ColoradoGold.com Don Stott, Proprietor 1-888-786-8822 Gold@gwe.net
El Dorado Discount Gold Box 11296 Glendale, Arizona 85316 eldoradogold.net Harvey Gordin, President Office: 623-434-3322 Mobile: 602-228-8203 harvey@eldoradogold.net
Investment Rarities Inc. 7850 Metro Parkway Minneapolis, Minnesota 55425 gloomdoom.com Greg Westgaard, Sales Manager 1-800-328-1860, Ext. 8889 gwestgaard@investmentrarities.com
Kitco 178 West Service Road Champlain, N.Y. 12919 Toll Free:1-877-775-4826 Fax: 518-298-3457 and 620 Cathcart, Suite 900 Montreal, Quebec H3B 1M1 Canada Toll-free:1-800-363-7053 Fax: 514-875-6484 kitco.com
Lee Certified Coins P.O. Box 1045 454 Daniel Webster Highway Merrimack, New Hampshire 03054 www.certifiedcoins.com Ed Lee, Proprietor 1-800-835-6000 leecoins@aol.com
Miles Franklin Ltd. 3015 Ottawa Ave. South St. Louis Park, Minn. 55416 1-800-822-8080 / 952-929-1129 fax: 952-925-0143 milesfranklin.com Contacts: David Schectman, Andy Schectman, and Bob Sichel
Missouri Coin Co. 11742 Manchester Road St. Louis, MO 63131-4614 info@mocoin.com 314-965-9797 1-800-280-9797 mocoin.com
Resource Consultants Inc. 6139 South Rural Road Suite 103 Tempe, Arizona 85283-2929 Pat Gorman, Proprietor 1-800-494-4149, 480-820-5877 Metalguys@aol.com
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Message: 6 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 04:14:41 -0000 From: GATAComm@aol.com Subject: Noranda stops negotiating exclusively with China's Minmetals
By Nicole Mordant Reuters Tuesday, November 16, 2004
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VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- Noranda Inc. said on Tuesday it is reopening the field to other bidders or may go it alone after failing to seal a multibillion-dollar takeover by China Minmetals during seven weeks of exclusive talks.
The big Canadian miner will continue to have discussions with the state-owned Chinese trading house but said that a period of exclusivity has expired and won't be renewed, a move analysts said is aimed at pressuring Minmetals into striking a deal quickly if it is still keen.
"Noranda and (parent) Brascan have gotten sick and tired of the Chinese dragging their feet. Apparently the package presented to them by China Minmetals is also not satisfactory," said a Toronto-based analyst who asked not to be identified.
Noranda's stock gained 68 Canadian cents to C$21.18 and shares of Brascan, which owns 42 percent of Noranda, rose C$1.18 to C$44, as the market hoped for a richer deal.
David Weiner, Minmetals' spokesman in Canada, said his company was "absolutely" still interested in Noranda, which, as the world's third-biggest zinc and ninth-largest copper miner, offers industrializing China a stable supply of metals.
"It's a complex transaction and, by their nature, they take time to execute," Weiner said, adding: "You can certainly expect to hear from us in the very near future."
After putting itself up for sale in June at a time of buoyant metal prices, Noranda picked Minmetals on Sept. 24 from among several suitors as its top deal prospect.
Brazil's Companhia Vale do Rio Doce, the world's No. 1 iron ore producer, is widely regarded as one of the other bidders and its president said on Tuesday that it was open to talks about Noranda.
"If Brascan seeks us out, we are open to studying anything. But we will move ahead only on projects that create value for our shareholders," Roger Agnelli told journalists at a news conference in Rio de Janeiro. CVRD's stock was down 5 percent or $1.22 in New York at $23.20.
In the weeks that Minmetals has been looking into Noranda's operations, Noranda's stock has dropped about 9 percent, while mining stocks on the Toronto Stock Exchange have risen about 8 percent as metal prices zoomed higher.
"It was not in the best interests of Noranda shareholders to continue granting an exclusivity to China Minmetals when the economic fundamentals in the industry have continued to improve," said Noranda spokesman Denis Couture, pointing to robust metal prices and Noranda's good third-quarter results.
"Negotiations with Minmetals are progressing and are cordial ... but we might want to pursue options with other parties," he said.
Noranda said in September that the Chinese firm had made a preliminary offer to buy all of Noranda in a mostly cash deal.
Canaccord Capital analyst Greg Barnes said the small premium that Minmetals offered, which lead the market to peg a value of up to C$23 a share, or C$7 billion ($6.4 billion) on the transaction, put a lid on Noranda's stock price.
"People are looking at it as dead money," he said.
Another rumored Noranda suitor, Switzerland's XStrata Plc, could be off the radar screen after it recently made a bid for Australia's WMC Resources, a copper and nickel producer that CVRD is also seen eyeing.
Couture said Noranda was also weighing going it alone. There is no deadline for a decision on its future, he said.
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COIN AND PRECIOUS METALS DEALERS WHO HAVE SUPPORTED GATA AND BEEN RECOMMENDED BY OUR MEMBERS
Blanchard & Co. Inc. 909 Poydras St., Suite 1900 New Orleans, Louisiana 70112 888-413-4653 blanchardonline.com
Centennial Precious Metals 3033 East 1st Ave., Suite 403 Denver, Colorado 80206 www.USAGold.com Michael Kosares, Proprietor US (800) 869-5115 Canada 1-800-294-9462 European Union 00-800-2760-2760 Australia 0011-800-2760-2760 cpm@usagold.com
Colorado Gold 222 South 5th St. Montrose, Colorado 81401 www.ColoradoGold.com Don Stott, Proprietor 1-888-786-8822 Gold@gwe.net
El Dorado Discount Gold Box 11296 Glendale, Arizona 85316 eldoradogold.net Harvey Gordin, President Office: 623-434-3322 Mobile: 602-228-8203 harvey@eldoradogold.net
Investment Rarities Inc. 7850 Metro Parkway Minneapolis, Minnesota 55425 gloomdoom.com Greg Westgaard, Sales Manager 1-800-328-1860, Ext. 8889 gwestgaard@investmentrarities.com
Kitco 178 West Service Road Champlain, N.Y. 12919 Toll Free:1-877-775-4826 Fax: 518-298-3457 and 620 Cathcart, Suite 900 Montreal, Quebec H3B 1M1 Canada Toll-free:1-800-363-7053 Fax: 514-875-6484 kitco.com
Lee Certified Coins P.O. Box 1045 454 Daniel Webster Highway Merrimack, New Hampshire 03054 www.certifiedcoins.com Ed Lee, Proprietor 1-800-835-6000 leecoins@aol.com
Miles Franklin Ltd. 3015 Ottawa Ave. South St. Louis Park, Minn. 55416 1-800-822-8080 / 952-929-1129 fax: 952-925-0143 milesfranklin.com Contacts: David Schectman, Andy Schectman, and Bob Sichel
Missouri Coin Co. 11742 Manchester Road St. Louis, MO 63131-4614 info@mocoin.com 314-965-9797 1-800-280-9797 mocoin.com
Resource Consultants Inc. 6139 South Rural Road Suite 103 Tempe, Arizona 85283-2929 Pat Gorman, Proprietor 1-800-494-4149, 480-820-5877 Metalguys@aol.com
Swiss America Trading Corp. 15018 North Tatum Blvd. Phoenix, Arizona 85032 swissamerica.com Dr. Fred I. Goldstein, Senior Broker 1-800-BUY-COIN FiGoldstein@swissamerica.com
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Message: 7 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 05:47:50 -0000 From: GATAComm@aol.com Subject: Debt doubles at agency that insures U.S. pension plans
By Mary Williams Walsh The New York Times Tuesday, November 16, 2004
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The federal agency that insures pension plans said yesterday that its deficit, already at the highest in its history, had doubled in its last fiscal year, to $23.3 billion.
Over a 12-month period, the agency, the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp., incurred losses of $12.1 billion, according to the agency's audited annual report for fiscal 2004. Much of the loss was a result of pension fund failures in the airline industry.
The agency, created in 1974 to be the federal safety net when pensions fail, has now lost an average of $10 billion a year for the last three years, according to one estimate. The mounting losses come at a time when the agency is responsible for paying the pensions for more than one million people covered by pension plans that failed.
The agency's executive director, Bradley D. Belt, called on Congress yesterday to address the situation quickly, "so the problem doesn't spiral out of control." He said that the Bush administration was preparing a plan for a comprehensive overhaul of the pension system, which it would propose early next year.
The Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. is paid premiums by companies that offer traditional pension plans. But it does not have the legal authority to raise those premiums or take other fundamental steps to bring its finances back into balance. Such measures would have to be enacted by Congress.
Congress, however, has not addressed the problems of America's pension system in a comprehensive way since the late 1980s, when a number of large steel companies with traditional pension plans defaulted. Since then, lawmakers have made some lesser amendments to the system, but even those have been made with great difficulty. The issues involved are complicated, and any true pension reform will be costly to someone -- either companies, workers, or the federal government.
Experts warn that waiting will not make the troubles go away. The system of regulating and insuring traditional pensions called defined-benefit pensions is increasingly resembling the system that did the same for the savings and loan industry two decades ago.
Congress had difficulty correcting that system's structural problems as well. As a result, there were delays and missteps, and the problems had years to grow and deepen. In the end, the entire system collapsed in 1989 and Congress had to authorize a federal bailout that cost about $200 billion.
"The Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. is living on borrowed time," said Rep. George Miller, a California Democrat who has followed the troubles in the pension system closely. He issued a statement yesterday saying the possibility of "an S.& L.-style taxpayer bailout of the agency to the tune of billions of dollars has increased."
In announcing the pension agency's latest financial results, Mr. Belt, the executive director, said that it was not running out of cash. With reserves of $39 billion, he said, it should be able to keep sending retirees their pension checks "for a number of years," even if Congress does nothing.
The problem is that the pensions the agency must pay retirees are much larger than the reserves, Mr. Belt said. The pensions owed retirees measure $62.3 billion in today's dollars.
Unless the agency finds a way to close the gap between the $39 billion that it has and the $62 billion that it owes, it will run out of money at some point. In that case, either retirees will be denied their benefits, or else Congress will have to appropriate money for a bailout.
Mr. Belt also noted that the agency's problems were worsening at a time when the general economic environment has been improving. He said the agency now faced $96 billion worth of risk from companies that are "reasonably possible" to default on their pension promises. The comparable number a year ago was just $82 billion.
The pension agency identifies such companies by looking at their corporate credit ratings, together with the weakness of their pension funds.
The agency does not identify the companies whose pension plans it expects to take over. Still, it is clear that the airline industry was responsible for much of the agency's loss for the fiscal year.
US Airways' three pension funds are expected to cost the agency $2.1 billion. And United Airlines, a unit of UAL, recently announced that it would terminate all four of its pension plans as part of its efforts to emerge from bankruptcy. Taking over United's pensions alone will cost the agency an estimated $6.3 billion, by far the biggest pension insurance claim ever made by a single company. Accounting rules require the agency to book that loss in its fiscal 2004, even though it has not yet taken over United's plans.
Even before yesterday's announcement, analysts were warning that the pension agency needed help. Douglas J. Elliott, president of the Center on Federal Financial Institutions, said that if Congress took corrective action quickly, the cost would be small relative to the cost of a bailout some time in the future. The center is a nonpartisan research institute that examines the federal government's various lending and insurance programs.
Mr. Elliott said that the agency's new numbers brought its average losses to more than $10 billion a year for three years.
"This is a trend," he said. "This isn't something where you can just say, 'Well, that was a bad year, thank goodness we're over it.' "
In addition, the agency's fiscal 2004 was a year of general improvement in overall economic and financial conditions, Mr. Elliott said. Had interest rates not changed slightly in the agency's favor, its losses would have been even larger.
Congress is not expected to address the pension agency's problems in the current lame duck session because it already has a full workload. But some members said yesterday that they were concerned about the strength of the nation's pension system and hoped to introduce legislation early in 2005.
"This issue has wide-ranging implications on retirees, employers, workers, taxpayers, and the government," said Rep. John A. Boehner, the Ohio Republican who is the chairman of the House Committee on Education and the Workforce. Mr. Boehner said in a statement that he planned to introduce a bill in 2005 that would address what he called "systemic pension underfunding problems."
The Education and Workforce Committee has already held hearings on the problems of the pension system and possible remedies. Mr. Boehner said that in addition to making sure companies set aside enough money for their pensions, the bill would require companies to disclose clear information about their pension plans and pay adequate insurance premiums for their coverage.
In addition to the premiums it collects from companies, the pension insurance program receives the assets from the failed pension funds it takes over and invests them. It does not currently receive money from income tax receipts.
The insurance premiums have not been increased since 1994 and are thought to be inadequate relative to the amount of insurance coverage companies receive. United Airlines, for instance, has paid about $50 million in insurance premiums over the years, for coverage of its $6.3 billion claim.
Pension specialists also point out that the premiums do not have anything to do with the amount of risk companies bring to the pension insurance program. Companies with pension plans that do not have adequate funds do pay higher premiums than companies with strong plans. But that way of operating does not account for one of the most important signs of whether the plan will collapse or not: the company's own health.
A strong company with an unhealthy pension plan poses nowhere near the risk of a weak company with an unhealthy pension plan.
Mr. Boehner has suggested finding a way to distinguish between weak and strong companies, and charge higher premiums to the companies that pose greater risk.
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Colorado Gold 222 South 5th St. Montrose, Colorado 81401 www.ColoradoGold.com Don Stott, Proprietor 1-888-786-8822 Gold@gwe.net
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Message: 8 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:17:48 -0000 From: GATAComm@aol.com Subject: CBSMarketWatch says gold ETF is expected to launch Thursday
By John Spence CBSMarketWatch.com Wednesday, November 17, 2004
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BOSTON -- The first exchange-traded fund investing in gold bullion will begin trading on the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday, said sources familiar with the situation.
Called StreetTracks Gold Shares, the ETF will trade under the symbol "GLD" with the World Gold Council as the sponsor.
Blocks of 100,000 shares are redeemable into gold bullion, and shares should be priced at about 1/10th the price of a troy ounce of gold but will deviate over time since the 0.4 percent expense ratio will come out of selling underlying gold to pay expenses of the trust.
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Message: 9 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:27:27 -0000 From: GATAComm@aol.com Subject: Mark Gilbert: U.S. is happily devaluing its way out of its trade deficit
Treasury Secretary Snow Laughs Off Dollar's Drop
By Mark Gilbert Bloomberg News Service Wednesday, November 17, 2004
quote.bloomberg.com pid=10000039&refer=columnist_gilbert&sid=abKpiT.R8.6k
"The history of efforts to impose non-market valuations on currencies is at best unrewarding and checkered" was U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow's response today to a question about whether the U.S. might join with other countries in a bid to arrest the dollar's decline.
The currency market quickly parsed Snow's comment, made in London at a briefing on global economies, and came up with its own translation: "Sell the dollar."
Down it went, dropping to a record $1.3048 against the euro and slumping to 104.29 against the yen. When Bloomberg reporter Edie Lush told him his comments were driving the dollar lower and his alleged "strong dollar" policy wasn't working, Snow chuckled. "The policy is the policy," he said.
Snow, looking scarily like Jack Nicholson in his role as the Joker in the "Batman" movie, is laughing all the way to narrower deficits. His lips said, "No one ever devalued their way to prosperity." But his eyes seemed to be saying, "There's no way I'm bailing out a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys who can't even lick their trade unions into shape."
The U.S. currency continues to disregard every piece of good news that would typically drive it higher. It ignored yesterday's figures showing U.S. producer prices jumped 1.7 percent last month, their biggest surge in 14 years. It ignored U.S. Treasury figures showing international investors bought a net $63.4 billion of U.S. assets in September, the most since June.
And it ignored the latest comment from the Federal Reserve flagging its intention to keep pushing the benchmark U.S. interest rate higher. "There is certainly more ground to cover," Chicago Fed President Michael Moskow told his local chamber of commerce yesterday.
In contrast, there's little prospect of an interest rate increase from the European Central Bank in coming months, with growth slumping to 0.3 percent in the third quarter for the 12 nations that use the euro. The Fed has doubled its overnight target rate to 2 percent this year, so the benchmark rates in the United States and Europe are level for now. Even with the prospect of a widening gap that should promise higher returns on dollar deposits, the U.S. currency isn't rallying.
That's because currency traders are growing more convinced that the Fed is as happy as the U.S. government to watch the dollar drop. "The issue for the Fed is getting the Fed funds rate back up so they can cut it again in future if they need to," says Steve Major, global head of fixed-income strategy at HSBC Holdings Plc in London. "A weaker dollar allows them to do that."
Asked by Heidi Crebo-Rediker of Bear Stearns Cos. how he expected overseas holders of U.S. Treasuries to react to the losses the dollar will inflict on their investments, Snow segued into a long joke, the punch line of which was "no comment." That's not funny when international investors own $1.9 trillion of the $3.8 trillion of marketable U.S. Treasury securities.
So far the U.S. government has been able to feed its $55 billion-per-month addiction to the foreign capital needed to fund the current-account deficit by relying on overseas purchases of its bonds. Yesterday's figures showed international investors bought $19.2 billion of government debt in September, up from $14.6 billion in the previous month.
The figures also showed that Japan dumped Treasuries for the first month since October 2002, with net sales of $1.5 billion.
Maybe Japanese investors have been listening to the chorus of Fed officials warning that U.S. economic policies threaten the health of the Treasury market. Yesterday it was the turn of Philadelphia Fed President Anthony Santomero to caution that "the issue of how a cyclically balanced budget will be restored introduces another element of uncertainty in the outlook."
Tim Bond, the global head of rates strategy at Barclays Capital in London, says it's "an odd time" for the Fed to embrace a weaker dollar as a means of slimming the current-account deficit, given worries about the government's enthusiasm for more tax cuts.
"A suspicion lurks that the renewed emphasis on the current account position betrays an attempt to remove the source of temptation -- ultra-cheap foreign financing -- before the politicians manage to enact some truly disastrous policies," Bond wrote in a research note yesterday.
With every grin, every shrug of the shoulders, every elusive response to perfectly straightforward questions, Snow told Europe and Japan that a weaker dollar is just fine by him. Strong growth, he said, is what will narrow the U.S. trade gap from last year's record $496.5 billion, and the current account deficit from the $166.2 billion reached in the second quarter.
What he meant was: The United States is happily devaluing its way to an improved deficit position.
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Mark Gilbert is a columnist for Bloomberg News Service.
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Blanchard & Co. Inc. 909 Poydras St., Suite 1900 New Orleans, Louisiana 70112 888-413-4653 blanchardonline.com
Centennial Precious Metals 3033 East 1st Ave., Suite 403 Denver, Colorado 80206 www.USAGold.com Michael Kosares, Proprietor US (800) 869-5115 Canada 1-800-294-9462 European Union 00-800-2760-2760 Australia 0011-800-2760-2760 cpm@usagold.com
Colorado Gold 222 South 5th St. Montrose, Colorado 81401 www.ColoradoGold.com Don Stott, Proprietor 1-888-786-8822 Gold@gwe.net
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Kitco 178 West Service Road Champlain, N.Y. 12919 Toll Free:1-877-775-4826 Fax: 518-298-3457 and 620 Cathcart, Suite 900 Montreal, Quebec H3B 1M1 Canada Toll-free:1-800-363-7053 Fax: 514-875-6484 kitco.com
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Resource Consultants Inc. 6139 South Rural Road Suite 103 Tempe, Arizona 85283-2929 Pat Gorman, Proprietor 1-800-494-4149, 480-820-5877 Metalguys@aol.com
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Message: 10 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:45:45 -0000 From: GATAComm@aol.com Subject: Are you paying storage fees on silver that doesn't exist?
By James R. Cook and Ted Butler Investment Rarities Wednesday, November 17, 2004
www.InvestmentRarities.com
Last week we had two prospects tell us that they had silver stored with major New York brokerage firms. One man had 50,000 ounces he'd bought from them years ago. The other had 20,000 ounces with another well-known firm. They have both been paying storage fees. But neither had any kind of proof that they owned real silver. They could not get a storage receipt with the exact size and weight of the bars. Nor could they get serial numbers for the bars.
According to silver analyst Ted Butler, if you can't get proof that real silver is in your name, then the silver doesn't exist. "Why wouldn't they give you the serial numbers if they had the bars?" asks Ted. "It's easy enough to do that and it's something that silver buyers who store silver should insist on."
A few years ago Ted Butler addressed this very issue as follows:
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By Ted Butler The same careful thinking and analysis that goes into the decision of whether to invest in silver is often not present in the decision of where and how the silver will be stored. Here I think many silver investors may be making a big mistake. That mistake is in assuming that just because you may have a piece of paper that reads that you own silver, there is real silver backing that piece of paper. In fact, I would assert that the vast majority of silver pieces of paper, such as foreign bank silver certificates, pool accounts, and all leveraged contracts have no real silver behind them. How could they? No one can provide evidence of more than 150 million ounces of verified silver bullion in the world, yet we have billions of ounces of silver promised by various pieces of paper...
What they have been doing, issuing and letting their silver certificates remain unbacked by real silver, is an immensely profitable business. For 20 years or more by not having to go out and buy and store real silver whenever a customer buys a silver certificate, the foreign bankers have been printing profits for themselves. Their customers give them cash upfront, and not only do these banks have full use of that cash, they do not have to pay any interest on that cash, and get this -- they charge storage fees for silver that doesn't exist. It's better than stealing, because if you just stole the money from someone, you wouldn't get to charge additional storage fees.
It's a racket.
Now I have surmised that there may be a billion ounces of silver involved in these certificates, but I think the figure may be much, much more. Here's my reasoning. While a billion ounces of silver may be a lot of silver, it sure isn't a lot of money. Five billion dollars over 20 years and all the banks that are doing this is peanuts. One man, Warren Buffett, bought almost a billion dollars' worth of silver by himself (of course, he couldn't get full delivery when it came down to it).
I recently witnessed one transaction where one entity bought 10 million (paper certificate) ounces from a major Swiss bank. You don't think, over the span of 20 years and the hundreds, or thousands, of banks involved in this silver certificate scam, that there haven't been a hundred others like this entity? What's $5 billion spread over hundreds if not thousands of banks worldwide?
There are two things that should come to every silver investor's mind.
First, is there silver behind my certificate? There most likely is if you a have a certificate that spells out the serial numbers on the bars or a specific description of the silver held (bags of coins, for instance). There probably is if the storage function is separate and distinct from the dealer selling you the silver. There probably is if it's registered in your name and not the name of your dealer. If you have all three, no sweat.
But if you hold a certificate where the silver is not described specifically, or is unallocated form, or is in a pool account, or there are no storage charges, you would be wise to assume that the silver doesn't exist.
That doesn't mean that you will automatically lose when silver takes off, but it becomes a question then of the credit quality of the entity you are doing business with, which is a very different analysis than the merits of silver. You then would be betting upon the financial viability of a dealer whose books you have not analyzed.
Appearances can be deceptive. Remember that a few years ago the largest silver refiner in the world, Handy & Harman Refining, suddenly went bankrupt and all silver pool owners and depositors were left in the cold.
Also, there may be small print wording in these unbacked silver certificates that may prevent you from getting your silver in physical form or that may deny you the true world price at the time you may wish to sell.
The second thing concerning silver certificates that should come to every silver investor's mind is the market implication that a silver price rise would have on those issuing non-silver-backed certificates. This is what I was mainly referring to in my mention that these certificates are a separate and distinct short position.
Even if you are not worried that your dealer may renege or go out of business (in the case of a large Swiss bank, for instance) if silver rises in price dramatically, the implications for the silver market will be profound.
While those who have been issuing these non-backed silver certificates have profited immensely over the decades by having free use of their silver depositors' money, there is a cost to be paid for those profits in the event of a silver price spike. Even if the depositors don't demand their silver, many will want to cash out at high silver prices. The issuing banks will be liable for those profits, and the only way the banks can limit their liability is to offset their suddenly very naked silver exposure and buy silver in some form, paper or physical. At some price trigger point -- $8, $12, $20 -- these banks will panic and buy en masse.
Ask yourself this: If the silver short sellers that these banks have been for decades suddenly turn collective buyers at any price, to the tune of hundreds of millions or billions of ounces, who will be there to sell to them such quantities?
Still think that $50 or $100 per ounce is unreasonable?
My advice here is not aimed only at new silver buyers. I am speaking to those who have bought silver already, over the years, with no input from me. My advice for those holding paper silver in questionable form is to get your silver into unquestionable form. Get out of pool accounts and unallocated silver and into real and allocated silver. Hold your silver in hand or with someone you trust. The additional costs will prove well worth it.
Make the switch now, while you can. Don't wait for the price to rise, for then it may be too late. I can't think of a worse outcome than for someone to have invested in silver for a long time only to be denied a profit when the price rises because he held the wrong form of stored silver. Please don't let that happen to you.
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Centennial Precious Metals 3033 East 1st Ave., Suite 403 Denver, Colorado 80206 www.USAGold.com Michael Kosares, Proprietor US (800) 869-5115 Canada 1-800-294-9462 European Union 00-800-2760-2760 Australia 0011-800-2760-2760 cpm@usagold.com
Colorado Gold 222 South 5th St. Montrose, Colorado 81401 www.ColoradoGold.com Don Stott, Proprietor 1-888-786-8822 Gold@gwe.net
El Dorado Discount Gold Box 11296 Glendale, Arizona 85316 eldoradogold.net Harvey Gordin, President Office: 623-434-3322 Mobile: 602-228-8203 harvey@eldoradogold.net
Investment Rarities Inc. 7850 Metro Parkway Minneapolis, Minnesota 55425 gloomdoom.com Greg Westgaard, Sales Manager 1-800-328-1860, Ext. 8889 gwestgaard@investmentrarities.com
Kitco 178 West Service Road Champlain, N.Y. 12919 Toll Free:1-877-775-4826 Fax: 518-298-3457 and 620 Cathcart, Suite 900 Montreal, Quebec H3B 1M1 Canada Toll-free:1-800-363-7053 Fax: 514-875-6484 kitco.com
Lee Certified Coins P.O. Box 1045 454 Daniel Webster Highway Merrimack, New Hampshire 03054 www.certifiedcoins.com Ed Lee, Proprietor 1-800-835-6000 leecoins@aol.com
Miles Franklin Ltd. 3015 Ottawa Ave. South St. Louis Park, Minn. 55416 1-800-822-8080 / 952-929-1129 fax: 952-925-0143 milesfranklin.com Contacts: David Schectman, Andy Schectman, and Bob Sichel
Missouri Coin Co. 11742 Manchester Road St. Louis, MO 63131-4614 info@mocoin.com 314-965-9797 1-800-280-9797 mocoin.com
Resource Consultants Inc. 6139 South Rural Road Suite 103 Tempe, Arizona 85283-2929 Pat Gorman, Proprietor 1-800-494-4149, 480-820-5877 Metalguys@aol.com
Swiss America Trading Corp. 15018 North Tatum Blvd. Phoenix, Arizona 85032 swissamerica.com Dr. Fred I. Goldstein, Senior Broker 1-800-BUY-COIN FiGoldstein@swissamerica.com
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