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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: epicure who wrote (213005)12/29/2012 6:26:04 PM
From: koan1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) of 541487
 
<<<<Schools have free breakfasts and lunches right now. They do. Right now.

http://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/sh/sn/sfs201207.asp

And look- there's even help in the summer.>>

Free pre schools beginning at 2.5 years old with free breakfasts?

<<We have a systemic problem and while you can talk about "getting 'er done"- we don't want to do more harm than good. A lot of giveaway programs have made things worse, rather than better. I think the solution to the inner cities starts with strengthening families- heterosexual families, lesbian families- I don't care, but children need more than one female single parent, even if she's a good one. Right now welfare is structured to discourage families, and that needs to change, right now.>>

I hate to break this to you but that is a super right wing idea.

<<Next, we need health workers and social workers to start programs- right now, on parenting, and health care, and manners- and they need to be mandatory. No assistance if you don't do the program. And we need to have mandatory career training- for jobs in the area. I'd like to see massive community gardens, so there are more fresh fruits and veggies available.>>


Another right wing idea. Sorry.

<<But things are unlikely to get done the way I would want. So, I'm just hoping government doesn't make things worse. The way assistance programs are run now is not the best way to do them, obviously. We could do better. Will education be a piece of that puzzle? Sure.>>

That is light on specifics.

<<You're the one who said you didn't know why people didn't believe in education. But no one said they didn't believe in it. Ergo, that's a straw man.>>

You spent several posts implying how education helped me, but things were so bad now it was different e.g. crack moms. You had a zillion qualifyers on who should go to college. Get a job first you said.

So no straw man at all. We have debated this one before. I never felt you had the same faith in educating the masses I have. Or the positive results of it.

Your kid is going to UC Davis, a top notch university, not going into the trades. Why not the ghetto kids at UC Davis? What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
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