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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It?

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From: Brumar892/20/2008 4:10:58 AM
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Heart of Darkness

I’m not a hardcore prolifer, but Good Lord – “Aborting babies alive and letting them die is a doctor's prerogative.”? What’s the difference between “live birth abortion” and infanticide?

Barack Obama is a seemingly benevolent, smiley-face totalitarian/pseudo-Messiah/Pied Piper. In his world, government permeates everything, promises everything, resulting in embarrassing mass hysteria, grown men getting the vapors, and unrealistic expectations of quasi-salvation. Quote Gerald Campbell: "Today there is a great need for inspiration and leadership — and a grand chorus of national harmony." Jawohl, mein Fuehrer! (if only Leni Riefenstahl still did movies - "Yes we can!" would lend itself beautifully to a Nuernberg-like scenario...that or a boyband concert audience of hysterical teenage twits)

Jill Stanek has put together a damning documentation of how twisted the real Obama is (H/T Mirror of Justice via Vox Nova):

10. Babies who survive their abortions are not protected by the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution. Speaking against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act on the IL Senate floor on March 30, 2001, Obama, the sole verbal opponent to the bill stated:

... I just want to suggest... that this is probably not going to survive constitutional scrutiny. Number one, whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a - child, a nine-month-old - child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it - it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute. For that purpose, I think it would probably be found unconstitutional.

9. A ban to stop aborted babies from being shelved to die would be burdensome to their mothers. She alone should decide whether her baby lives or dies. Before voting "no" for a 2nd time in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 5, 2002, Obama stated:
What we are doing here is to create one more burden on women, and I can't support that.

8. Wanting to stop live aborted babies from being shelved to die was all about politics. During that same speech at Benedictine University, Obama said, according to the Illinois Leader, "the bill was unnecessary in Illinois and was introduced for political reasons."

7. There was no proof. Also during the Benedictine University speech, Obama said, according to the Illinois Leader, that "there was no documentation that hospitals were actually doing what was alleged in testimony presented before him in committee."

6. Aborting babies alive and letting them die is a doctor's prerogative. An Obama spokesman told the Chicago Tribune in August 2004 that Obama voted against Born Alive because it included provisions that "would have taken away from doctors their professional judgment when a fetus is viable."

5. Anyway, doctors don't do that. Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times in October 2004 he opposed Born Alive because "physicians are already required to use life-saving measures when fetuses are born alive during abortions."

4. Aborting babies alive and letting them die is a religious issue. During their U.S. Senate competition Alan Keyes famously said: Christ would not stand idly by while an infant child in that situation died.... Christ would not vote for Barack Obama, because Barack Obama has voted to behave in a way that it is inconceivable for Christ to have behaved. Obama has always mischaracterized Keyes' rationale for condemning Obama by implying Keyes was simply making a statement against Obama's pro-abortion position, which is untrue. Keyes pointedly stated he was condemning Obama for his support of infanticide. Nevertheless, live birth abortion must be included in the list of procedures Obama condones. Obama responded first to Keyes by saying, as quoted in his July 10, 2006, USA Today op ed:... [W]e live in a pluralistic society, and that I can't impose my religious views on another. (so outlawing murder, theft, robbery...is that not based on religious views, too ? What about people who feel differently...pluralism, after all ?)

3. Aborting babies alive and letting them die violates no universal principle. In the same USA Today piece, Obama said he reflected on that first answer, decided it was a "typically liberal response," and revised it:

... But my opponent's accusations nagged at me.... If I am opposed to abortion for religious reasons but seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.

2. Sinking Born Alive was simply about political oneupsmanship. Obama has this quote on his website:

Pam Sutherland, the president and CEO of the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council, told ABC News. "We worked with him specifically on his strategy. The Republicans were in control of the Illinois Senate at the time. They loved to hold votes on 'partial birth' and 'born alive'. They put these bills out all the time... because they wanted to pigeonhole Democrats...."

And the #1 reason Obama voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act was:

1. The IL Born Alive Infant Protection Act was a ploy to undercut Roe v. Wade. During a debate against Keyes in October 2004, Obama stated:

Now, the bill that was put forward was essentially a way of getting around Roe vs. Wade.... At the federal level, there was a similar bill that passed because it had an amendment saying this does not encroach on Roe vs. Wade. I would have voted for that bill.

This was an out-and-out lie. The definition of "born alive" in the federal and Illinois versions were identical. The only difference came in paragraph (c), which was originally identical in both versions but changed on the federal level.

Illinois' paragraph (c): A live child born as a result of
an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate
protection under the law.
Federal paragraph (c): Nothing in this section
shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or
legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point
prior to being "born alive" as defined in this section.

When the senator sponsoring the IL bill tried to amend IL's paragraph (c), Amendment 1 below, to be the same as the federal paragraph (c), Barack Obama himself, as chairman of the committee hearing the bill, refused, and he then also killed the bill.
posted by Gerald Augustinus
closedcafeteria.blogspot.com

propeller.com

Democrats and Abortion: Obama and the Blood
FEBRUARY 09, 2008 | BY JACK YOEST

Gianna Jessen
Abortion Survivor
Marathon Runner Years ago, Your Business Blogger was clipping the finger nails of the infant Dude. My fine motor skills and eye sight were not quite what they once were and I clipped deep and The Dude bled red bad.
Everyone present cried.
Nothing hurts more than baby blood.
But this blood may not bother everyone.
Trick Question: To a Democrat, What is botched abortion?
Answer: A Live Birth

This is a world-wide problem. See Alive and Kicking Campaign: Run, Gianna Run!,

Every year in Britain, 50 babies are born-alive -- after an abortion attempt.
Babies born alive. Don't you just hate medical malpractice? The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists is mounting an investigation into this horrible rash of babies born alive -- according to their standards an abortionist is supposed to be sure they stop the baby's heart with a direct injection of potassium chloride.

The problem? "In practice, few doctors are willing or able to perform the delicate procedure," says Britain's Sunday Times.

But in the virtuous US of A Congress addressed this abortion loophole and crafted the Born Alive Infants Protection Act,
"The law guarantees that every infant born alive enjoys full legal rights under federal law, regardless of his or her stage of development or whether the live birth occurred during an abortion."
Who could possible vote against saving a baby. A baby born alive?
Barack Obama. Democrat.


charmaineyoest.com

Alive and Kicking Campaign: Run, Gianna Run!
NOVEMBER 28, 2005 | BY CHARMAINE YOEST

Gianna Jessen,
Abortion Survivor
Marathon Runner!
Every year in Britain, 50 babies are born-alive -- after an abortion attempt.
Babies born alive. Don't you just hate medical malpractice? The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists is mounting an investigation into this horrible rash of babies born alive -- according to their standards an abortionist is supposed to be sure they stop the baby's heart with a direct injection of potassium chloride.
The problem? "In practice, few doctors are willing or able to perform the delicate procedure," says Britain's Sunday Times.
Another problem? Abortion is legal in Britain up to the 24th week of pregnancy, but some babies born earlier do survive:
'They can be born breathing and crying at 19 weeks' gestation,' [Stuart Campbell, former professor of obstetrics and gynaecology at St George's hospital, London] said. 'I am not anti-abortion, but as far as I am concerned this is sub-standard medicine.'
Fortunately, not everyone has such a warped definition of "medicine." The Times goes on to report that, "Doctors are increasingly uneasy about aborting babies who could be born alive."
Enter Gianna Jessen, who was one of those pesky babies who just insisted on being born alive. Gianna is a young American woman who survived a saline abortion. (See links below for previous stories about Gianna.)
Today, despite living with cerebral palsy as a result of the "sub-standard abortion" that almost killed her, Gianna has become a marathon runner.
And in April, Gianna will be running in the London Marathon to draw attention to the Alive and Kicking Campaign. They are working toward reducing the legal upper limit for abortions from 24 weeks to 18 weeks, which would halve the yearly number of abortions in the UK.

Run, Gianna Run!
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charmaineyoest.com

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The clash between fundamental worldviews is often difficult to capture, but sometimes literature does what a news report cannot. Consider this passage from Cormac McCarty's novel, No Country for Old Men. In this passage, one of the main characters reflects on this clash:

"Here a year or two back me and Loretta went to a conference in Corpus Christi and I got set next to this woman, she was the wife of somebody or other. And she kept talking about the right wing this and the right wing that.

I aint even sure what she meant by it. The people I know are mostly just common people. Common as dirt, as the sayin goes. I told her that and she looked at me funny. She thought I was sayin something bad about em, but of course that's a high compliment in my part of the world. She kept on, kept on.

Finally told me, said: I don't like the way this country is headed. I want my granddaughter to be able to have an abortion. And I said well mam I don't think you got any worries about the way the country is headed. The way I see it goin I don't have much doubt but what she'll be able to have an abortion. I'm goin to say that not only will she be able to have an abortion, she'll be able to have you put to sleep. Which pretty much ended the conversation."

That exchange also pretty much sums up the clash of worldviews. Sometimes literature captures a universe of meaning in a minimum of words.

albertmohler.com
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