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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (22608)11/25/1998 12:19:00 PM
From: Zeev Hed   of 39621
 
Emile, so what? Nevertheless, a rational person not so inclined to hate could construe those citations in quite a different light. But let us take these one by one:

Sanhedrin, 67a -- Jesus referred to as the son of Pandira, a soldier

This citation is pat of an argument trying to identify one named Yeshua (quite a common name at the time). Is there anything wrong in being the son of a soldier? Some of my best friends are.

Kallah, 1b. (18b) -- Illegitimate and conceived during menstruation.

Who, what? how can anyone be conceived during menstruation>?

Sanhedrin, 67a -- Hanged on the eve of Passover. Toldath Jeschu.
Birth related in most shameful expressions.

Can you be specific?

Abhodah Zarah II -- Referred to as the son of Pandira, a Roman
soldier.

Yes, there are some arguments in the talmud as to who fathered Jesus, or a person called Jeshua. Christians theological writings are full of such questions, and it comes back to your faith, you believe in divine conception, which is fine with me, but others do not have to.

Schabbath XIV. Again referred to as the son of Pandira, the Roman.

You start and think that maybe they know something you do not?

Schabbath, 104b -- Called a fool and no one pays attention to fools.

So were Elisha, Jeremiah and few hundred other real and false prophets, including Moses.

Toldoth Jeschu. Judas and Jesus engaged in quarrel with filth.

I do not remember any tractate of the Talmud named Toldot Jeshu. Not that I doubt that someone might have written that, but your source might be faulty.


Orach Chaiim, 113 -- Avoid appearance of paying respect to Jesus.

Not the Talmud either, but even if it was, why should Jew pay more respect to Jesus then to Mohamad or Budhah? A Jew has one and only one God. To a jew, any implication that there is a possible splitting of the deity into a trinity or other plurality of deities is one of the more severe blasphemies since it blatantly violate the first commandment. In order to make sure one does not violate the first commandment, a Jew make sure that he does not even approach the concept of deification of a "flesh and blood" (Basar Vadam) and does not accord deital respect to any but the ONE.

Iore dea, 150,2 -- Do not appear to pay respect to Jesus by
accident.

Sqame as above.

That does not means you should not respect Jesus, but why should you ask a Jew to violate the first commandment, and then burn in hell forever?

Once again, Emile, I would like to know what travesty was visited upon you that causes you to be so overflowing with hate?

Zeev
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