And of course that guy has proof...but somehow has never gone to the authorities or the NYT? Yeah, right!
And of course with your scientific background you were able to ask intelligent questions of him. Like where he was (and how he was able to have been there/), how long he observed? had he read the fire captains reports? etc. etc.. I'm an engineer that does works with construction projects with-in Aerospace, post his contact info, I'll talk to him. What's your background that allowed you to discern whether his claim had merit?
Also explain to me where they hid the detonation cords that were used to bring down 7, how no one, include building maintenance people couldn't see it.
My suggestion is to listen to this video, particularly to the end, where the Fire Fighter that calls in to the loose change gang and rips him a new one.
hotair.com
I used to think you were a pretty smart guy. You changed that in one post. My thoughts with some of you TFHB is coming somewhere close to this guy's:
forums.randi.org
I am officially done debating with CTers, and this is why:
My post at DU:
yes, if you are to believe the collected, cut and pasted parts that add up to the CT version of the "controlled Demolition" of WTC1 and 2, here is what you must admit...
1. That Thermate or Thermite was used (only way to explain absence of conventional sequence of 100+ detonation explosions and accompanying flashes), despite the fact that it has NOT been used for the demolition of a building anywhere.
2. That they used a previously untried form of controlled demolition, where you initiate the collapse from the floor of plane impact, and have it collapse from the top down. This, also, has never before done in "controlled demolition".
3. That someone was on the ground or in a building nearby with a remote control, waiting to see which floor the plane would hit, so that he could detonate the "Thermate" on that level first, providing us with the "Top down" demolition we observed.
4. That there was enough time and secrecy available that teams of demolitions people could plant these "Thermate" explosives on the Steel columns, requiring removal of the walls, then planting the explosives, then redoing the walls, so noone would notice (polyfilla not gonna do it). Knowing that the Landmark tower, a 30 storey building brought down by conventional "controlled demolition", took 4 months of unlimited access to the building to rig, it is likely that to rig two 110 storey buildings, we are talking years of continuous access, or decades of weekends and nights...
5. That noone of all the people who would have planted the explosives would ever breath a word of it to anyone.
Shall I go on...
TAM
A reply from some CTer named petgoat:
Thermite...has NOT been used for the demolition of a building anywhere.
So what? Do you have any doubt that if you sever the core columns of a hundred story
tower, it will collapse? Besides, there was the fail safe of the explosives. Redundant
systems were employed.
That they used a previously untried form of controlled demolition, where you initiate
the collapse from the floor of plane impact, and have it collapse from the top down.
What exactly do you anticipate going wrong? Do you have any doubt that if you explode the
top of a hundred story tower, and five seconds later you explode the middle, and five
seconds later explode the bottom, that it will come down?
someone was on the ground or in a building nearby with a remote control, waiting to
see which floor the plane would hit
If the planes homed in on radio beacons placed in the towers, then the impace zone could
be predicted precisely. What about radio control do you find implausible?
requiring removal of the walls, then planting the explosives, then redoing the walls
How often are the elevator shafts inspected? What walls need be removed? There were many
vacant floors. Have you ever seen how much space there is above the suspended ceiling of
an office building?
That noone of all the people who would have planted the explosives would ever breath a
word of it to anyone.
Dead men tell no tales, and pro spooks are rarely chatty about their work.
Shall I go on...
You'll have to do better than what you did.
and my reply to him:
forget it...there is no convincing anyone who believes the crap anyway...believe what you want. It is funny though, that the supermastergeniuses who were able to pull all of that off, and so much more that day, couldnt plant a few WMDs and labs in the entire country of Iraq. How much easier their life would be...how much more sure of a win in 2008 they would be if only they could have planted them...but no...they couldn't...they werent good enough...but they could plant explosives in 3 buildings, fly remote controlled planes into them, shoot crusie missiles into the pentagon, immitate voices in real time...cause that stuff is easy compared to dropping a few guys down into Iraq to set up a couple of labs and chemical weapons...yup.
TAM
So I am done with them. They are useless anyway. From now on my role is to annoy them, mock them, and to try and educate the naive, the fence sitters, and the unsure. I am fed up with those guys...
TAM
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Did you watch the video?
lolloosechange.co.nr
Did you read this website?
debunking911.com
Absolutely nothing you CT's suggest is supported by facts, by Structural Engineers, or Demolition Experts. Nothing. Do you understand the stretch you have to make to to accept the word of a 22 year old? I doubt now, that you're that smart to understand that leap of faith that you have to make to be where you're at. And that's a shame and a failure of our education system.
Jim |
