Aug.18,2000:End of Day CNC REVIEW and NEWS
We had another good day today!!!
We are still basking inGary Wendt came out and said
NOT TO WORRY ! ! ! !
siliconinvestor.com
Today shorts could not find enought shares to cover:
The dearth of CNC shares persits. Volume has shrank to 1/3 of normal 7,040,000/day.
Shorts are still looking to cover…….
K$ng P$nky tries to cover:
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A CNC share! A CNC share! my Kingdom for a CNC Share!
K$ng P$nky @ pink-punk-pantheon.de
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KING RICHARD III Act 5, Scene 4
A horse! a horse! my kingdom for a horse!
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We are introducing a new section:
INSTITUTIONAL OWNERSHIP:
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At lionshares.com
Today’s first post by dunnonothin at YHOO:
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Fidelity tripled their holding, adding 2 million shares.
Donaldson Lufkin & Jenrette septupled their holding, adding six million shares.
The number one holder, Alex Brown, holds near 18 million shares, adding another couple hundred thousands.
The second largest holder, Barclays added 2 million shares.
There's Gintel Asset Management that now has CNC as 17% of its portfolio, holding 3.5 million shares.
And the shorts would have you believe that this company is worthless.
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Gintel has 30% of its portfolio in Tech, 27.62% in Financials. Those are their two largest sectors. They balance each other out.
Since they have 17% in CNC, that would be the majority of their Financials holding. 17 out of 27.
Clearly this funds philosophy is capital appreciation, which is why their number one sector is Tech. I don't know the details of their tech portfolio, but I would surmise that they would not be in bloated high flyers that could drop like a rock at anytime with little possibility of doubling or tripling.
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Top Ten Holders hold approx. 28%.
For the top 15 holders, net change is a plus of over 6 million shares.
And this is ( 6-30-00 ) before Gary Wendt!
by dunnonuthin
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CNC Balance Sheet
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CNC CHART & Technical Analysis
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CHART
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SI CHART
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MONEY FLOW Stats by Softechie Aug 8, 3000 :
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That story is best illustrated by today¡¦s featured post by paulthebigfinn at YHOO:
Management¡¦s statement today is significant for the things it didn¡¦t say. It went
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¡§CARMEL, Ind.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 17, 2000--Conseco, Inc. (NYSE:CNC - news) today issued the following statement: ``We believe that short sellers and other persons have been disseminating misleading information about Conseco's upcoming debt maturation. We refer investors to pages 7 and 46 of our Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2000, (filed last Monday) in which we indicated that:
Conseco is currently in discussions with its bank lenders with respect to„h extension of its debt maturities. Although no agreement has been reached, management is optimistic that appropriate extensions can be negotiated.
„h Conseco has embarked on several courses of action with respect to its Conseco Finance Corp. subsidiary (including asset dispositions and restructuring of ongoing businesses), as well as an asset disposition program with respect to certain non-strategic assets at the parent company level. These initiatives are designed to allow Conseco to reduce parent company debt over time. Conseco believes that the sale of non-strategic assets and the actions contemplated at Conseco Finance will generate cash proceeds of approximately $2.0 billion over the next 12 to 15 months.
``Please refer to the 10-Q for additional information.''
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Management thinks shorts are ¡§disseminating misleading information¡K¡¨ and quoted the previous public record for support. Why wasn¡¦t any new information given? I can think of three answers:
1. They are in negotiations for the roll over, but don¡¦t have it finalized yet.
2. They are selling something big and don¡¦t have Lehman¡¦s permission to use the funds yet.
3. They are trying to sell the whole company¡K
I can¡¦t think of any bad reason they wouldn¡¦t say more. If the shorts were telling the truth, then why issue a press release? I can only get management is in deep sh*t with the SEC. No, IMHO this is the start of something big.
By: paulthebigfinn
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MAJOR RECENT ARTICLES ON CNC
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Aug. 17,2000: Business Wire: Wendt Battles Shorts
Message 14227830
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Aug.15,2000: 1) Lehman Is Latest Hurdle For Conseco's Recovery
Message 14214595
Aug.15,2000: Conseco Still Negotiating Debt Maturity With Lenders
Message 14214598
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.Aug. 14,2000: FITCH TO UPGRADE COMSECO?? Because it is
overcollateralized?
Message 14212528
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Aug 9 (Reuters) - Conseco Finance, fixed final terms for its 2000-4 series $1.2 billion
nine-tranche asset-backed bond launched on August 4.
Rating Aaa/AAA/AAA
ragingbull.altavista.com
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Aug. 9,: A consortium of eight insurance companies has completed a $40.5 million investment in
affordable-housing projects across the state, the first test of an effort to get insurers
to voluntarily invest in community development.
ragingbull.altavista.com
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Aug. 4, 2000: Conseco prices senior classes of $1.2 bln ABS deal favorably
ragingbull.altavista.com
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Aug. 4, 2000:Conseco Capital Management Names New Co-Portfolio Managers
for Conseco High Yield Fund
Conseco Promotes From Within After High-Yield Exodus
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7/27/00 BUSINESS WIRE:
CONSECO Announces Restructuring Program ,Parts I, II, III & IV , from RB
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quicken.com
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DOW JONES NEWSWIRE 7/27/00:COMPLETE EPS REPORT
1: dowjones.work.com
2: dowjones.work.com
3: dowjones.work.com
7/24/00 BLOOMBERG: WENDT GETS RID OF LEOPARD CHAIR AND .......PROTECTS SHAREHOLDER EQUITY:
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quote.bloomberg.com
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. 7/19/2000 WENDT HIRES Ex-GE CRISIS TEAM
biz.yahoo.com
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7/12/2000 20 MILLION PAID TO HIRE WENDT
Wendt gets 45 mill less than if he had stayed at the Golf Course and got paidby GE to non - compete and do nothing. GE gets 10 mill CNC shares,
will make another killing.
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6/30/2000 WENDT BACK FROM HONEYMOON messages.yahoo.com
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6-29-00 WENDT HIRED AS CEO OF CONSECO:
Message 13965582
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6-27-00: BLOOMBERG: Conseco May Name Ex-GE Capital Head Wendt
Message 13953564
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VARIOUS CNC INVESTORS
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GABELLI FUND UP 23% has 9% of position in CNC:
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PROFIT VALUE FUND: 4 star Morningstar rating.
In last 3 months has added new position in Conseco,
to make in 8th largest position;
position similar in size to its holding in Berkshire.
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BROKERS¡¦ and ANALYSTS ¡¥ OPINION
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8/15/00 Bloomberg: Novell, Conseco Are Among the True Stock Bargains:J.Dorfman
cnetinvestor.com
Message 14220318
8/10/2000Gary Smith from REALMONEY.COM at The StreetCom
puts a buy on CNC with a stop at 7.
Anyway, here are a few charts to look at as you sip your morning Cafe Yukon:
thestreet.com
ragingbull.altavista.com
thestreet.com
8/5/00 S & P raises Outlook to highest, 5 ( on scale 1 to 5 )
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7/30/00 STANDARD AND POOR UPGRADES CNC TO 4 STARS FROM 3 STARS
Message 14133330
Maintains: Accumulate: messages.yahoo.com
7/31/00 Merrill Lynch messages.yahoo.com
.7/26/00 LEHMAN MAINTAINS OUTPERORM II ON CNC Message 14109720
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OVERVIEW of CONSECO INSURANCE RATINGS
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RATING AGENCIES , MOODY¡¦S, S & P etc
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FITCH
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Aug. 14,2000: FITCH TO UPGRADE COMSECO?? Because it is
overcollateralized?
Message 14212528
Aug. 11. 2000:Conseco 2000-4 $1.2B Manufactured Hsg Contract P-T Rtd By Fitch
Message 14200638
biz.yahoo.com
Aug. 11, 2000: Fitch Downgrades Conseco Rtgs
biz.yahoo.com
Message 14200576
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S & P
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www2.marketwatch.com
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S&P cuts Conseco Fin status
Aug. 8, 2000--3:18 pm - By Chris Kraeuter
Conseco Finance's credit rating status was revised to "negative" from "developing" by Standard & Poor's. According to a S&P statement, S&P "believes Conseco Finance's creditworthiness is severely limited by a lack of funding flexibility and aggressive leverage." Also, S&P cited its belief that the finance unit will not be sold to a "higher-rated" entity in the foreseeable future. Conseco Finance's ratings were placed on "developing" on March 31. Conseco's (CNC: news, msgs) ratings status was placed on "negative" on April 7. Currently, Conseco shares are down 1/16 to 7 7/8 on volume of 2.8 million shares.
ragingbull.altavista.com
Comment from RB poster on above S & P reports:
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8/9/00 1:58:00 PM : Business WireS&P Places Various Green Tree Cert Rtgs on Watch Neg
The revision in the CreditWatch status reflects the increasing likelihood that
Conseco Finance will not be sold to a higher-rated entity in the foreseeable future.
ragingbull.altavista.com
Comment from RB poster on above S & P reports:
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MOODY¡¦S
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. " While Moody's said it expects the company and its bank lenders to reach a satisfactory agreement,
it said the details of such an agreement and the effects on Conseco's operations remain uncertain.
moodys.com
New York, June 30, 2000 -- Moody's Investors Service has downgraded the credit ratings of
Conseco, Inc. and its affiliates (senior debt rating to Ba3 from Ba1).
moodys.com
New York, April 20, 2000 -- Moody's Investors Service lowered the senior
unsecured debt ratings of Conseco, Inc. and Conseco Finance to Ba1 from Baa3.
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MORNINGSTAR/FINANCIAL
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Morningstar grades CNC a B-, for financial health, just slightly below average
for insurance industry and average for universe of stocks.
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DALBAR Insurance Rating Web site
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Part 1
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Part 2
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VARIOUS OTHER ISSUES IN CNC:
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ISSUE OF PRODUCING A GIANT SHORT SQUEEZE:
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First, to effect a short squeeze in CNC and see a giant squirt
of cash upwards in your CNC stock:
b) ask your broker to put the stock out of Street name, or
b) ask your broker to put a sell price ¡§ good till cancelled ¡§
at let¡¦s say $40 or $50. That will remove it from the short pool..
c) or simply ask him to restrict it, ie you don¡¦t want to have it
loaned out for shorting.
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Aug: 11, 2000:REUTERS: "Liquidator" Jacobs bets on insurer's turnaround
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Message 14172703
CNC in WORTH Magazine via Maverick Capital's Hedge Fund Manager - Lee Ainslie.
Ainslie is a noted short seller who has averaged 24.8% after fees with $5B under management.
He has covered his CNC position: ¡§ I am not going to go
Against somebody of Wendt¡¦s reputation ¡§.
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8-1-00 Star Tribune: Neal St. Anthony/On Business:
Jacobs roars, short sellers yawn
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7/31/00 J.J. CRAMER FROM TheStreetCom editorializes: ¡§ A great Idea !!!¡¨
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7/27/00 IRWIN JACOBS WANTS TO PRODUCE A SHORT SQUEEZE.
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¡K¡K¡K.He puts this Ad in WallStJ. then other papers
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streetmonkey.com
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IRWIN JACOBS PICTURE : interactive.wsj.com
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Angling for Tie-Ins, Irwin Jacobs Took Up Big-Time Bass Fishing
interactive.wsj.com
Message 14204449
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CURRENT SHORT INTEREST
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is ! 64, 000, 000 shares according to Wall St. Jour.
But could be much higher, 78,211,523 shares
According to this web site:
trading-ideas.com
Shorting Rules
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BOOKS ON SHORTING
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(We encourage would be shorts to read these
and go ahead short some more and make
Mr.Wendt¡¦s Day when the big squeezarooo comes along).
capatcolumbia.com
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BAD SHORTING ADVICE
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¡§Mr. Pink's Picks: selected event-driven value investments ¡§
in SI Thread, by Mr. P$nk Esq.
Message 14187856
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MISCELLANEOUS SHORTING
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CNC Stock Analysis of the day by paulthebigfinn at YAHOO board
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7/22/2000 ISSUE OF CNC BANKRUPTCY
AND of DILUTION of SHAREHOLDER EQUITY
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Part I messages.yahoo.com.
Part II messages.yahoo.com.
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7/28/00 :ISSUE of FABER CNBC REPORT & CONTROVERSY
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( ie that Wendt is going to dilute shareholder equity ?).
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7/29/00 reply by ta to FABER Report: CNBC FABER is either LYING or MISINFORMED
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7/24/00 Cnet : ''We're not going to be diluting shareholder value at ridiculously low prices,'' Wendt said.
cnetinvestor.com
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7/31/00 FABER CORRECTS HIMSELF: ¡§ CNC WILL N O T ISSUE ANY N E W EQUITY ¡§.
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Thank you Mr. FABER.
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ISSUE OF MR.T.LEE'S PREFERRED STOCK
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Aug.16:RBull: by Normal_Deviate
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Aug.16:RBull: by NJ-Gator:
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ISSUE of VALUE of PREFERRED STOCK
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LAWSUITS, INTERNET AND CNC
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8/14/00 CNC hires David Herzog as V.P. and General Counsel
Message 14211926
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From Law firm Baker and Daniels
a very large Indianapolis firm:
bakerdaniels.com
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REVIEW OF RECENT INTERNET LAWSUITS:
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Message 14157877
Friday August 4, H-Quotient, Inc., Files Suit Against Alleged Stock Manipulators Message 14173025
The most recent Lawsuit won by Biometrix
Message 14158321
And just before that New subpoenas on the way
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NEGATIVE ARTICLES ON CNC
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8/17/00 The StreetCom: Good News with a ¡§ BAD Spin ¡§,
which StreetCom specializes in:
Message 14230638
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7/27/00 TheStreetCom: Herb's Hotline: Oversight by Conseco?
thestreet.com
7/10/00 TheStreetCom: Conseco Sets Rich Pay Package for New CEO, By Peter Eavis
Message 14023449
7/11/00 Herb's Hotline: Will These Conseco Capers Never Cease?
By Herb Greenberg
thestreet.com
&/14/00 Bloomberg :Conseco Outdoes Itself in Piling Gifts on Wendt:
by Graef Crystal
ragingbull.altavista.com
7/31/00 Warburg initiates coverage with hold;
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7/31/00WSJ Colin Devine from Smith Barney is worried about CNC
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MISCELLANEOUS
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MISCELLANEWS CNC NEWS
August 11, 2000: Dow Jones News: Conseco Preferred gains in NYSE
Message 14204249
August 11, 2000: Dow Jones News:
CNC FLEXIBLE PORTFOLIO MUTUAL FUNDS TOP PERFORMANCE
Message 14204221
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WHY I INVEST IN CONSECO
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.WHAT IS CNC REALLY WORTH?
View from a competitor Mr.Nauert, CEO of CERES:
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A CNC competitor!! ,Mr.Nauert, CEO of Ceres says that
starnews.com
If sold to the right buyers, Nauert said, Conseco's insurance operations could bring as much as $7 billion. That's the equivalent of $21 a share -- nearly three times Conseco's current stock price.
And this is from a competitor!!!!
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WHO IS GARY WENDT
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Aug. 7, 2000 :BUSINESS WEEK
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My comments on Business Week Article: Music¡KMusic¡KMusic..
Message 14127197
1997 FORBES/GECAPITAL: " BLOWING BUBBLES "
forbes.com
July 5, 2000: REVIEW OF GARY WELCH LIFE AND ARTICLES
Message 13993832
July 10, 2000: W S J : GE Capital¡¦s Wendt: " A BRUTAL NEGOTIATOR "
Message 14023303
WENDT'S BUSINESS CARD
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I am responsible for 38% of GE's net income:
GE¡¦s profit has come increasingly from Financial Services
That¡¦s GECapital, the company I run, at GE:
businessweek.com
And here how I compare with the giants:
quicken.com
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APPENDIX DEDICATED TO MISCELLANEOUS IN SHORTING:
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An introductory song about short covering:
¡§Come on baby, we got a lot of short-coverin¡¦ goin¡¦ on ¡§
By Jerry Lee Lewis
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¡§ It HURTS to be a SHORT ¡§
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( aka #2 It Hurts to Be in Love By Gene Pitney )
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Shorts felt REALLY BAD today.
How bad does it feel? Check this¡K
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#5: Like a Rolling Stone
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Shorts thought of going the Hemlock way.We suggested they do it properly
And go here:
Here's the proper way to use Hemlock:
First become informed
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Then
"Think Happy Thoughts"
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by Jim Handey...
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Then do it.
COVER YOUR BUTT!!!COLD TURKEY is always best:
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K$ng P$nky tries to cover:
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A CNC share! A CNC share! my Kingdom for a CNC Share!
K$ng P$nky @ pink-punk-pantheon.de
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KING RICHARD III Act 5, Scene 4
A horse! a horse! my kingdom for a horse!
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13:42:00 ,VOLUME 1,120,000 shares.
Average daily volume 7,040,000 shares
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