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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (25575)8/1/2006 5:14:50 PM
From: TimF   of 542501
 
1. You do whatever is needed to stop the killing.

2. You do whatever it takes so that the killing does not start up again.

Whatever it takes can be pretty extreme. In the case of the Arab Israeli conflict it could be as extreme as eliminating either Israel or the Arabs so that there won't be any more conflict.

"Whatever it takes" is not normally a rational or desirable plan. You might be willing to go pretty far. To signify that you will go very far you might say you will do "whatever it takes", or that "you will bear any burden", but such statements are seldom accurate, and that is for the most part a good thing.

4. To argue about the size, shape, and who sits where at the table while innocent people are getting killed is stupid.

Its a tactic to cause delay, or to try and gain some weird advantage over the other side. If your at the point where everyone involved wants the killing to continue, or even where you care more about the shape of the table than stopping the killing, even if you can do so without major concessions. Or if one side thinks pretending to negotiate while the killing continues helps their side, then placing much hope in negotiations would be stupid. At that point the negotiations are at best a sideshow and at worst a distraction. If both sides think the current cost is acceptable for the moment and time is on their side as long as the battle continues negotiations won't amount to anything.

There are no good killing and no bad killing.

So if the US shot down a plane bombing Pearl Harbor in 1941 it would be an unmitigated bad act? Marching through Europe and toppling Hitler was immoral and not beneficial? And responding with "this isn't WWII" isn't a counter argument. You didn't limit you comments to the current conflict.
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