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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: sense who wrote (281456)11/11/2020 7:16:15 PM
From: Sun Tzu   of 281500
 
>> Both parties are corrupt... which doesn't make them equally corrupt, or that "all of the time" or the same ?

That is true. GOP is far more corrupt than Dems. Conservatives attract an extraordinary number of corrupt leaders. This is not an ideological or partisan issue. It is baked into the fabric of a conservative person. One example is the church. I don't think that the priests are a bunch of pedophiles. I think that pedophiles opportunistically choose to be priests because it affords them an aura of respectability beyond reproach and access to the children. The same goes for the many of conservative leaders. You guys are so enamoured by them that you fail to see through their hypocrisy.

>> On the left...On the right...

I don't think that you are the right person for this debate. You have shown no ability to objectively look at GOP and their supporters. I really think that you should discuss this with Koan. You two would make a good couple. I will bring in the popcorn and watch the two of you "debate" about the parties.

>> Until this election, the Republican establishment were still Trumps primary opponent

And then GOP proved to be a bunch of unprincipled cowards by kowtowing to Trump. I watched Lindsey Graham describe what a horrible person Trump is. Ditto for Cruze and so many of the rest of them. And then just to keep their seats warm, they all bent over backwards to kiss his ring.

The only honorable Republicans are the Never Trumpers. Not because they opposed Trump, but because they showed the courage of their conviction and took in real personal and professional hits but stood firm. I admire than in a person even if I disagree with them completely.

>> Whether Trump wins his contests or not... those R's elected this cycle... are TRUMP Republicans

You say that as if that is a good thing. Trump is a clinical narcissist and mentally unstable. He is a serial adulterer, a professional conman and a cheat. You don't have to take my word for it, just check out his record before he got elected. The fact that a good chunk of America is blind to his flaws or finds them excusable bodes very badly for the nation.

But of course you do not see it that way. Like I said from the start, I don't mind people disagreeing with me. But they need to be coherent and have some logical framework based on facts. The facts are not on your side. BTW, I am from Queens. I know Trump and Giuliani pretty well. There was not a day that we did not hear about them in NYC...and I am talking about the pre-9/11 days before these guys cultivated a superhero aura for themselves. You should look at their personal lives from back then and tell me if you would have your daughter mary either of them.
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