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Technology Stocks : Novell (NOVL) dirt cheap, good buy?
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To: Scott C. Lemon who wrote (28483)10/6/1999 12:13:00 PM
From: ToySoldier  Read Replies (3) of 42771
 
Scott,

It was fun churning up the pot a bit myself - you have been doing a great job as devil's advocate - it was my turn.

You are correct that the problem is more so that protocols/services like FTP/HTTP/IRC etc. are IETF standards (which are also pretty old) and are inherently an unsecured service. These services cannot natively be non-repudiated since its not built into them. They would not function if someone tried to enhance them since it would not be able to chat with any other end.

The NAT does not play any dangerous role when it comes to true e-commerce transaction where non-repudiation is designed into the conversation (i.e. digital certificates). It simply acts as a middleman - IP be damned - and assists in carrying the secured transaction conversation from end-to-end.

I have not yet called the BM team but I would really like to see how they could answer this issue for generally unsecured services.

The only thing I could think of is for some creative thinking individual or company to create non-repudiated versions of these services (i.e. certificate required FTP) that would received by a firewall and then even proxied to a standard FTP service if the destination were standard.

But this whole conversation did bring up a couple things in my head:

1) Why would smart, energetic, well respected, driven people like you and Stone and others leave a company that APPEARS to be on the verge of reclaiming its glory in the industry via Directory Services? I put myself in your shoes for a minute and thought, I would leave for two reasons: Ether I got a MUCH better opportunity or offer I just could not refuse, or, I could see fundamental cracks in the organization that are not being addressed or cannot be addressed by the organization. I know you can't speak for Stone, but you might want to speak for yourself - not that you have to.

2) That I have fallen for some of the hype in the NDS message from Novell in that it does not have the answer - magic bullet - to some basic situations or problems in the Internet (that other in the industry also do not have). NDS is generally as good and the legacy products that it has to service. It cannot enhance the security of a service that does not want to be secured.

Hhhhhmmmmmm.....

{{{ToySoldier sits on a stone with his hand on his chin - like The Thinker - and ponders life in a new NDS reality where he feels more naked than before - like The Thinker. How could this happen? Where do I go from here? How do I save the world from itself? }}}
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