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Technology Stocks : Ascend Communications (ASND)
ASND 207.04+0.7%Dec 8 3:59 PM EST

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (32163)1/27/1998 12:18:00 PM
From: blankmind   of 61433
 
I just read 1050 posts (7 days worth) in 2 1/2 hours. -thomas miller

the people with the white coats will arrive soon (i placed a call), hold on, we on this thread will support you until they arrive. i believe the following should put you in the abyss.

Re: Ascend + IBM 7845: Here's how I did it ...

Michael Loceff (loceff@netcom.com) wrote:
: I know every combination of NT1's, routers and CO switches requires
: its own thought process, but here's how I (finally) got the Pipe-50
: and Roadrunner to cooperate:

: I have a Pac Bell switch of type 5ESS out of Sunnyvale. Since
: I want an occasional analog call out of the 7845, I had to get
: 2 SPIDS and 2 Directory numbers.

Added by Hubert Daugherty
I am working against a Southwestern Bell 5ESS and SW Bell has
established a tarrif in which no more than 2 SPID's are issued against a
single BRI line. Sad but true. And I, like Michael, had a lot of
trouble getting the line to work with both a Pipeline 50 and an IBM 7845
connected. My experience in getting things to work are slightly
different and may be of use to others in Soutwestern Bell land. I am
inserting my comments into the very useful document provided by Michael
Loceff in the hope that a recipe can speed others along.

: Here's the breakdown:

: Pac Bell:
: 1) 2 numbers and SPIDS
: 2) Each with voice/data
: 3) End one additional call appearance.
: 4) Both set to C terminal type (the 7845 wants C, the
: Ascend prefers A or B, but it accepts C,
: so for symmetry, I have C on both).

: Ascend:
: 1) Point-Point NOT NOT NOT Multi-point.
: 2) Give it either number as it's one and only (A) number.
: 3) Since you are doint point-point from the Ascend's POV
: there are no SPID questions to answer.

Added by Hubert Daugherty
4) After bringing up the Ascend in Point-to-Point, I couldn't
make an outgoing call. This is what I expected, because
it WAS a multi-point line and all devices on a multi-point
need an SPID. However, -=THIS IS IMPORTANT!!=-,
the ATTEMPT to place a call apparently allowed the
5ESS switch to identify a second device on the ISDN line
because NOW, when I told the Ascend P50 to go into
multi-point mode, the line status indicatator came up
saying "M" in the display, not "D" as it had
in all previous attempts. SUCESS!!!!
5) I set the two phone numbers and the two SPID numbers to the
same value on the Ascend P50.

: IBM 7845
: 1) Program it using the other phone number (*98 ... #) and its
: corresponding SPID (*99 ... #).
: 2) For my area I had to speficy the 5ESS-Custom switch type
: (*97 5 #)
: 3) You can turn on extended mode and leave it on (*#9)

Added by Hubert Daugherty
3) IS IMPORTANT, because the registration of the IBM 7845
with the 5ESS MUST occur before the Ascend P50.

: Even if you want to use both B channels for data simultaneously, you
: won't have to touch the 7845. I don't know why it works, but
: at Ascend they told me if I have 2 SPIDs I would have to set the
: 7845 as Multi-P and put in both SPIDS to get both B channels to work.
: That was not only not true, but nothing worked if I did that.

: Once I figured out the above, with hints (some correct) from IBM (Hi Chuck)
: Ascend (Hi Matt), Pac Bell (Hi Joyce) and Internex (Hi Randy), I didn't
: have to resort to the following two measures, which I employed
: several times during learning:

: A) When re-programming the Ascend, power cycle it once if
: it doesn't appear to change switching modes viz-a-viz
: it's Switch Type status window.
: B) If Everything looks good but you can't PING out - i.e. no
: dial, call the Ascend number from a differet
: line to wake it up - you should see it's B1 channel
: status change from - to *.

: Oh, while I can't seem to get the Ascend to automatically increase
: bandwidth yet, I can force is by asking it to originate calls
: on both B channels. (I must say, the documentation for both the Ascend
: and IBM units is - well I don't want to start anything.)

: Michael Loceff
: Foothill College
: michael@loceff.com
: loceff@netcom.com

Added by Hubert Daugherty
The above information helped me get this working. I want to thank
Michael for work he did in figuring this out.
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