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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: JohnM who wrote (36639)4/22/2007 11:45:09 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (2) of 541787
 
Elroy, the problem with that way of rendering the Iraq war is that the Bush administration did not justify it's invasion of Iraq simply on the grounds of either our national security in taking out Saddam, nor the defeat of a dictator.

You sure? That sounds like 80% of the goal as I recall. Didn't the resolution to authorize the use of force with Saddam's regime have the removal of the dictator and confirmation that a hostile government has no WMDs which they might use against US interests as the primary objectives?

I don't think "bring democracy to the ME" is in the resolution which authorized the use of force against Saddam's regime - THAT was more of the admin's spin when we found out there were zero WMDs in the first place.

Reads like a defeat to me.

Well, the US plan to bring a peaceful, democratic, civil society to Iraq is failing, perhaps. But I would phrase it like that, not in the terminology of "the US is being defeated in the Iraq war" which is so common among the "anti-war" crowd. If Iraqis choose to blow each other up in the market, and that makes the US decide that it's not worth our time and effort to help the Iraqi people, I think there are better ways to describe that outcome than "the US lost the war".

In general, when you get defeated in war, many you die and much of your country gets destroyed. Nothing like that is even close to happening in the US, and nothing like that is even close to happening to US forces in Iraq.
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