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Politics : I Will Continue to Continue, to Pretend....

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To: Sully- who wrote (4148)8/20/2004 8:15:30 PM
From: Sully-   of 35834
 
<font size=4>A "Must Read."<font size=3> They keep coming out of the woodwork. Shot
in the Dark blog. I copied the first paragraph from the
opening of the <font color=green>"Gridley"<font color=black> site and added it to the top of
this blog. I also added the complete remarks of the Exec. -
From: LindyBill
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The Kerry page - As everyone must surely know by now, John F. Kerry came on board GRIDLEY as a boot Ensign when we returned from our 1967 Westpac Cruise. He remained on GRIDLEY through the 1968 cruise. Politics aside, shipmates of the time who have read TOUR OF DUTY, the authorized campaign biography, will have something to say about the chapter on GRIDLEY.

Shipmates

Before the Swifties, Ensign Kerry served on the guided-missile frigate/cruiser (it was reclassified at some point in its life) USS Gridley.

Some members of the Gridley's crew have put up a website home.nycap.rr.com with their reminiscences of serving with the future Senator.

Some of them are even-handed, but unfavorable in the end - like this from Kerry's Executive Officer (the ship's second-in-command):
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"Living With His Anti-war Past A Commentary

By J. F. Kelly, Jr.

Every candidate for public office probably has some excess baggage to carry around that he’d rather not have. With Senator John Kerry, it’s undoubtedly his anti-Vietnam War activism that followed his heroic naval service in Vietnam.

John Kerry and I were shipmates in the guided missile cruiser USS Gridley (CG-21) in 1967 and 1968. He served as First Lieutenant, the officer in charge of the deck division, and I was Executive Officer, or second in command. I remember him as a serious and intelligent young ensign, seemingly mature beyond his years. The skipper and I were mightily impressed with him in spite of his inexperience. He had excellent verbal skills and great poise so we assigned him a collateral duty as Public Affairs Officer. Because of these duties and his basic responsibilities for seamanship evolutions and the overall external appearance of the ship, I had close, daily contact with him. To put it another way, I would be all over his case, if the ship wasn’t shipshape. Turns out he didn’t need too much supervision in that regard. He was a fine division officer and his men obviously respected him.

We deployed from San Diego to the Vietnam theatre in early 1968 after only a six-month turnaround and spent most of a four month deployment on rescue station in the Gulf of Tonkin, standing by to pick up downed aviators. It was a fairly grueling tour of duty. Our helicopter was shot up trying to rescue a downed pilot and the door gunner was killed. The crew performed well and John Kerry’s performance in all aspects of his duty was outstanding. Drafting his fitness reports was an exercise in the use of superlatives. In fact, of the thirty or so officers, I counted him in the top half dozen, no mean feat for an ensign.

I tried to interest him in a naval career. Silly me! It was obvious he had bigger fish to fry. I drafted the favorable endorsement on his request for Swift Boat duty on the rivers of Vietnam, were he distinguished himself in combat. Before he left, he gave me his bridge coat and several other uniform items, saying that he wouldn’t be needing them in the <font color=brown>“brown water”<font color=black> navy.

Aside from a Christmas card and an aborted telephone call, I didn’t hear further from John until I read about his anti-war antics including his appearance with Hanoi Jane Fonda and the famous episode of throwing medals onto the capitol steps during a protest.
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While he was protesting against the war, many of us were still fighting in it. Many of us felt betrayed that one of our own, a decorated hero, would give comfort to the enemy by such actions. Think what you want about the wisdom in getting involved in that war, two presidents, both Democrats, committed the armed forces they commanded to fight it. Make no mistake; actions by the likes of Fonda and Kerry were damaging to our morale, gave aid and comfort to the forces we were fighting and altered the eventual outcome in a manner less favorable to the United States than if they had kept their mouths shut. The time for anti-war protests is before the war starts.

There is no question that John Kerry earned his decorations and that he put his life at risk in the service of his country. There is no doubt in my mind, moreover, that he has the intelligence to serve as president. But <font color=red>there is also no doubt in my mind that his anti-war activities while our troops were still fighting, dying and being tortured in filthy Vietnam prisons were despicable.

For that reason, even aside from his anti-defense voting record in the Senate, he is one ex-shipmate that I could never support as commander-in-chief of the armed forces."
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Others paint a more nuanced complex picture:

5. The trip to Danang – GRIDLEY went into Danang for briefings before going to Northern SAR. This section is so full of hyperbole that the urge to giggle is almost uncontrollable.
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“The panic and pressure onboard GRIDLEY, strapping on a .45, wondering if I would have to use it, B-52’s howling overhead”. <font color=black>

A B-52 over Danang would have been so high that only contrails would have been visible, cloud cover permitting. David Simons confirmed my recollection that during our brief stay in Danang Harbor, the sky was overcast to the point of being ominous.

More seriously, no one can remember John Kerry going ashore. I was part of the shore party that went to Monkey Mountain. We were taken in a screened in truck (to protect against grenades being tossed in) and made to unload our .45’s. The driver said that he did not want us newbies to shoot anyone by accident.

Neither Commander Kelly nor LCDR Rueckert (Kerry’s immediate boss) can recall approving a trip ashore for Ensign Kerry. The author uses remarks of David Simons IC2 as a lead in to the Danang section. I spoke to David and he has no personal knowledge of Kerry going ashore at all. He did talk to a researcher and made some generic remarks about Danang but had never discussed Danang with Kerry. He recalls arguing with the researcher because he tried to put the words <font color=blue>“cowboy”<font color=black> in his mouth, which ended up in the book.

There is no mystery about the <font color=blue>“gruesome site of a pile of dead VC.”<font color=black> We saw no sign of anything like this. However, our escort to Monkey Mountain did tell us how the VC bodies were stacked up on the LZ’s after the TET Offensive, which had been several months before. <font color=red>Ensign Kerry would have been told this story by members of the shore party. <font color=black>

If, indeed, he got to the pier, because he was in charge of the motor whaleboat, it certainly would not have been within his purview to wander Danang, eating dog meat and drinking beer in a bar (under arms). It also seems amazing that he had all these observations on Vietnam in such a brief visit."

Very curious.

Of course, we haven't verified any of this, and don't know any of the agendas involved.

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