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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: Jamie153 who wrote (437405)4/9/2020 12:45:41 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (1) of 541807
 
I am a bit more optimistic-lol.

Two things:

One, I expect the elections to go forward without a hitch.

Two, 'But suppose I am wrong, how would this play out. We will have elections for congress for sure. If Trump tries to stay in office, so many Democrats will be elected that they can impeach him again, but this time he would be removed from office and the military would come and remove him.

Also, as mentioned I expect a huge Blue wave in November as so many people will be suffering they will blame Trump. They are blaming him now. I saw a poll today and his numbers are down.

I have said for a long time I thought this was 1932 and in that election FDR got 472 electoral votes and Hoover only got 59.

Electoral resultsPresidential candidatePartyHome statePopular voteElectoral
voteRunning mateCountPercentageVice-presidential candidateHome stateElectoral voteTotalNeeded to win
Franklin D. Roosevelt Democratic New York22,821,27757.41%472 John Nance Garner Texas472
Herbert C. Hoover (Incumbent) Republican California15,761,25439.65%59 Charles Curtis Kansas59
Norman M. Thomas SocialistNew York884,8852.23%0 James H. Maurer Pennsylvania0
William Z. Foster Communist Illinois103,3070.26%0 James W. Ford Alabama0
William D. Upshaw Prohibition Georgia81,9050.21%0 Frank S. ReganIllinois0
William H. Harvey Liberty Arkansas53,4250.13%0 Frank Hemenway Washington0
Verne L. Reynolds Socialist LaborNew York34,0380.09%0 John W. Aiken Massachusetts0
Jacob Coxey Farmer-Labor Ohio7,4310.02%0 Julius Reiter Minnesota0
Other4,3760.01%Other
39,751,898100%531531
266266
Source (popular vote): Leip, David. "1932 Presidential Election Results". Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections. Retrieved

<<Message #437405 from Jamie153 at 4/8/2020 6:50:18 PM

If Trump said "no more elections" it'd be headline news. Then there would be endless discussions (which I'd turn off) and then polling. The polling would change slowly but after a few polls a majority would favor getting rid of free elections.

It's not like there's a lot left to save. Our Constitution lay in ruin. Our finances are irreparable. The economy is collapsing. We don't have a functioning government and Supreme Court rulings are based on what the party wants.

Our version of capitalism is based on using slave labor in poor countries to make cheap stuff for us because we're not paid enough to buy the good stuff and our corporations and farmers are dependant on welfare called tax cuts, subsidies, and bailouts.

What's left to save? The idea of government of, by and for the people was very noble but unrealistic. The oligarchs controlled Congress, then the Courts. Then they destroyed the rule of law.

It started with Citizens United. History will not be kind.

But there is hope, a tiny almost infinitesimal ray of hope. Judges could resign (Roberts), the gop could suffer the most humiliating defeat in history and the media could be banned from reporting things that are not true (ie: all things republicans say).

Will any of these thing happen? No. We admire failure. Republicans voted for a man who went bankrupt four times and remarried three times and screwed around behind all their backs (but one bj was impeachable...we can only hope it was a very good bj).
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