". . .To say that Apples are more upgradeable than Wintels because you can go to the store and buy another bigger and better Apple ignores the basis of my upgradeability concept. The CHCP)? is that the acronym) for a standard box might be a step in the right direction.."
"CHCP'?? I suppose you are referring to "CHRP," Common Hardware Reference Platform. It's Apple's much-delayed foray into using "common" components to build Macs rather than using mostly Apple-manufactured components. The next upgrade of OS 8, OS 8.01, often referred to (for reasons unknown to me) as "Bride of Buster," will supposedly support CHRP.
As for what I mean by upgradeability, well I mean the ability to add video cards, upgrade the CPU, add additional internal hard drives, more memory, more cache, etc..
When I say Macs are more easily upgradeable than a PC I am not referring to buying a whole new computer. That's preposterous. I am saying that's it's easier to upgrade a Mac than a PC though.
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"I challenge you to buy a Mac 512, and upgrade it to a Power PC motherboard. Anyone can buy a std 386 and replace the motherboard with a pentium PRO. To bring it all the way up, you need extra memory, and a lerger (sic) hard drive, and perhaps a VGA monitor if the old one had a TTL monochrome, or leave the TTL mono, it still works.
"This upgrade path is a good part of the reason for the Wintel success.... "
Are you saying the old 512s are the Mac equivalent of the 386? You don't know what CHRP is and you keep posting stuff like this on the thread. I reiterate a point made before by other Mac users as well as myself, you simply do not know what you're talking about when it comes to the Mac.
An owner of a 512 certainly can't upgrade his/her computer to make it a Power PC. But any Mac owner who has purchased a computer in the past three or four years can certainly upgrade his or her Mac easily.
Personal example: I recently upgraded my PPC 7500 100MHz 601 CPU with a faster 185MHz 604e from Newer Technology. Here's how I did it:
1. order/receive new board.
2. install new extension from mfg-provided floppy.
3. turn off/unplug computer.
4. open computer.
5. ground power supply with mfg-provided strap.
6. remove old board.
7. press reset button/install new board.
8. close computer.
9. plug-in computer
10. turn on computer
11. go to work
The whole process took 5 minutes. It's just as easy to add memory, cache, etc.. Mac users can also plug-in periferals more easily than PC users. It's called "plug and play" in the Mac world. In the PC world it's called a "dream." Upgradeability is NOT a good reason to buy a PC vice a Mac, at least not among the better informed.
I'll tell you a little secret Bill. If you want to score debating points on an Apple board, you should stick to two related issues, market share and software availability. Those are very big issues where any comparison of the two platforms clearly favors the PC.
When you start talking about other criteria such as upgradeability, speed, reliability, stability, ease of use, return on investment, personal productivity, etc., the Mac wins. Personally I'd love the debate to center on these issues. In fact, I'd love to see the debate spill over from this board to the national stage. Hopefully, Apple's new marketing will make this happen.
In the meantime, you need to do your homework on Apple and the Mac. You deluge this thread with incorrect conclusions based on bad data. Like I said before, you'd probably be more comfortable on one of the PC box makers' boards where they have the same depth of knowledge about Apple and the Mac_and the same prejudices_ as you.
Bob |
