Ahmed, the only way I will proceed further on this is if we can do it in love and respect for each other as BOTH people that God loves.
Like a discussion among friends and office mates.
I'll assume that you agree with the ground rules.
I just don't think that you argue over the Word of God.
And, you definitely don't kill people to accept it and put people in bondgae over it.
Let's discuss this like we aren't trying to force and having to
feel like we have to convert or change some one or that you aren't a person if you don't beleive a particular way.
Let each person love God and let them relate to God as he as reveal the Holy Word to them.
I'll assume that your jab at me " DO NOT BE ARROGANT!!!!"
was just a slip.
I think I know your heart and you wouldn't say this to a friend in that tone.
I think my first point is the way we should approach the discussion.
Giving each other the benefit of the doubt. that We love God and love people and beleive that God does love us and all.
Most of the problems are misconcetions about christians and Jews and
Moslem. Each of us will have to stand before a holy God some day.
Let each make that decision and be held accoutable for that decision
1. I didn't musinterpret your first statement. When you are born
you are perfect. If you died that day then you would be accepted to Heaven. It's alittle hard to sin in the womb<g> This is what I'm talking about not prejudging what you said. I understood perfectly what you said. then again I studied Islam. I didn't take ABC or NBC or CBS's inforamtion on it. They are controlled by satan.
Does doesn't mean that 100% of the pople in media are satanist. Each
person is separate.
2. Even thoguh you use the Quran. DO you accept the writings of Moses and the prophets and Judges and histroy and King David and Solomon and
the minor prophts too (mciah, joel etc.)
Where do you see in my response a free ticket to Heaven. It's not in my post anuywhere. the ticket was not free. Can you point out that free ticket you mentioned.
I said the opposite. their was a great price.
I've studied Islam... I need to ask have you really studied Christianity or did you just get the religiuos version from
major news sources. Will you agree that the major sources have distorted Islam??? Yes they have. Well, why does TV tell the truth about christianinty but distort Islam. Let me tell you they distrot
both. the Media and public sources are controlled by Satan to breed hate among all of us. Do you agree with this point??
From the Christian perepctive it's not a free ticket. that is a distortion from media and releigiuos people not christians.
Everybody will be held accountable for their deeds.
Although we will disagree about our good deeds save us. we may not disagree that rewards are there for our deeds. this is in the Gospels so I will not quote it.
I will reserve my quotes for Moses and the Prophets which you say are part of your belief.
4. Chrisitan cannot do what they want. They earnestly seek the will of the Father.
Christianity in the comfort zone makes God vomit.
Ahmed, not all Moslems practice the Koran the way it' means. the same is true with Christians. They don't read the Scripture they just heard their Aunt Sue tell them what it said and they go with that and don't study for themselves. Some also, just hear something and their flesh wants to beleive that because they want to do that so that inaccuracy becomes truth ..... but it isn't what God said
5. I do detect in your post that there is bad blood between you and christians like they have done and said things to hurt you.
For that I apologize and humbly ask your forgiveness.
Ahmed i love you and I would lay down my life for you...i love you
as God loves you. We don't have to agree on everything for me to love you and die for you. Please beleive that.
6. On death. I don't fear death at all. I could watch the antichrist cut my kidsheads off and my wife's head off and then be next in line.
Death would send me face to face with a loving God. I'm that positive.
The only reason i choose to live is to show His love to others. and i've dedicated my all including my wealth to help others instead
of indulge my flesh with the things of the world which mean nothing to my.
I was one of the first people hired by Compaq computer. God and He alone has blessed me trmendously and I commit myself to spreading that blessing to others.
It would please me very much to die this second. I don't need to see my kids go to college or get married or have grandchildren compared to seeing the loving Father face to face. but, that would be selfish.
There is allot God wants me to do. I face Satan everyday and he puts allot of problems in my way and they hurt sometimes. To die would mean those wouldn't happen any more... but not my will be done...only the will of the Father I seek. he wants me to be His minister and help the poor , the prisoner, the broken hearted. so, I seek not my gain which to die would certianly be that but i seek the will of the father and He wants me to live. So death is out of the question becasue that would be very selfish of me to not want the resistance and problems and be in Heaven.
7. I'm not confident in myself when it comes to God. i'm confident in His mercy and forgiveness and love.
8. I seek God's will daily. If I go astry I ask God to forgive me and earnestly desire to get back on His path for my life.
I am human I make mistakes and more than anything I thanks God for His mercy. Not my ability to make me right.
9. I'm very interested in Doing good deeds but more importantly I want to do the good deeds that God wants me to do .
Not something to "say hey look at me , look what i can do,
Aren't I good for what I do." I'm also interested in doing what God wants not ME PICKING THE GOOD DEEDS.
10. LIFE IS A TEST. WE AGREE ON THAT. We just don't agree on
what one of the questioons are on that test. That Jesus was sacrificed by God so those who accept that sacrifice will inherit the nature of God inside them.
11. We also agree that God is the judge. He knows the heart. and it's Him who judges the quick and the dead.
12. We don't agree that I am arrogant in spiritual matters. None of my co-workers would ever agree with your statement, none of my friend would agree with your statement.
I think that what they think and say about me in the area of my spiritual life is more important than what I say.
If you say you love God then it can be seen in your love for others.
No one can say they love God and hate his brother
13. We agree God is one.
I've tried to answer you point by point. I did not cover the Words of the Prophets and Moses and how Jesus fulfilled those. Because I wanted to start here first.
Please print this out and read it before you respond. reading it on hard copy makes it easier to understand my points and my heart.
God loves you and may He bless you. |
