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Strategies & Market Trends : India Coffee House

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To: Shivram Hala who wrote (4995)7/8/1999 8:48:00 PM
From: sea_biscuit  Read Replies (1) of 12475
 

The vocal minority don't dominate the scene in india

Maybe that's why a few hundred thousand bank employees can hold the country to ransom? Or a few million public sector workers and government workers can force the government to keep hiking their wages for doing nothing?

Read Sartaj Aziz's comments on a recent ineterview with the BBC ("Nuclear weapons for pakistan is a deterrent to india's superiority in a conventional warfare.") That's why pakistan refuses to sign the no-first use doctrine.

And that's a startling "revelation"?! Of course, India has a decided edge over Pakistan when it comes to conventional weapons. And of course, Pakistan refused to sign the no-first use doctrine!

NATO did the same too -- when they were outnumbered by the Warsaw Pact almost 4 to 1 in tanks, 3 to 1 in ground troops, and 2 to 1 in fighter aircraft. They adopted a doctrine wherein they would use nuclear weapons first if their security was seriously threatened. Which is the obvious and logical choice for a country that is at a disadvantage when it comes to conventional warfare.

From what you say pakistan thinks it is at the top of the world because it has nuclear weapons.

I don't know what Pakistan thinks. But what we have to understand is that Pakistan need no longer be afraid of any really serious conventional weapons strike by India (like a full-scale invasion of the PoK, for instance).

I'm proud of what indians have achieved in the 50 years since independence but what has pakistan to show for that.

Oh, really? And why do you have to bring Pakistan's name? Want to shine by contrast? Well, I am sorry to say that you don't succeed even there! Here are some numbers:

> Human Development Index Rank, 1996: Pakistan 134, India
> 135 (out of 174).

1998 -- Pakistan: 138 India: 139 (out of 174)

> Real GDP per capita, 1993: Pakistan $ 2,160; India $
> 1,240; all Developing Countries $ 2709.

1998 -- Pakistan: $ 2209 India: $ 1422 All DCs: $ 3068

> Adult Literacy rate, 1993: Pakistan 36 per cent, India
> 51per cent, all DCs 61 per cent.

1998 -- Pakistan: 37.8% India: 52% All DCs: 70.44%

> Underweight children under age 5, 1995: Pakistan 40,
> India 53, all DCs 30.

> Primary school pupil-teacher ratio, 1992: Pakistan 41,
> India 46, all DCs 33.

> (All data from the UNDP Human Development Report, 1996 & 1998).

While on that topic maybe we should talk about what pakistan has achieved. Maybe instead of venting your venom, and drowning yourself in your anti-indian tirade you could berate pakistanis on their lack of achievements,

I have said that the entire subcontinent -- India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan -- lives in misery. It is not just an opinion. That's the fact. The numbers say it. The visuals prove it. And a visit to that region confirms it beyond any shadow of doubt. The conditions are so awful that even many countries of Africa are better off. And India is the largest country in that region, accounting for something like 75 plus percent of the population as well as area. Now, that should tell you something, no?!

Nuclear blackmail did'nt do any good and in fact it dented the credibility of pakistan.

Yeah, we'll see about that! Mere condemnations aren't going to be good enough. And unless the Western nations level the playing field vis-a-vis conventional weaponry, things can be dangerous. The coming years will show you how badly India has miscalculated the whole thing by indulging in nuclear "Diwali" in Pokhran in 1998.

" So, unlike 1965, India can no longer cross over to PoK and "punish" Pakistan. "

Punish Pakistan ? We humiliated pakistan. Remember 92,000 pakistan prisoners and the begging bowls.


Well, fond memories are all you can cling on to now. That was then, and this is now! India cannot cross over to PoK without seriously exacerbating the situation and endangering itself. Forget about ever getting back PoK. It's as good as gone.

" the "Hey, we'll nuke them and destroy them, so what's there to worry?" variety. "

Again, the net is not the world. But if your perfectly happy with accepting what they say as official indian policy you are welcome.


Well, the official Indian policy is not even as "coherent" as "we'll nuke them bastards!". It is saying one thing today and then denying it tomorrow, or retracting it, or claiming that it was quoted out of context, or misquoted, and then moving on to the next SNAFU! <G>

More later...
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