hb,
Wednesday's posts on this thread were excellent.
My understanding of them are limited, but I could identify that everyone's views had substance and insight, along with an attitude of give and take so all involved learn and live together.
Azteca de Oro at the Le Metropole Cafe served commentary at The Hemingway Table, "Current Economic Snapshot July 2000."
Not able to discuss it here, but i would like to mention a number close to $64,000 that could represent something called an average debt held by the usa public. Add to this your comments, a few on this area i copy below, along with my impression that the average usa public saves very little, meaning i think, that average saving is $0 ???
If the smoke and mirrors about inflation numbers given out by government sources, along with some media like CNBC helping the scam, then if food and energy are not in thoses numbers, then what about credit cards rate increases. I am constantly presses to not explain, but to vanish fears of some people that talk to me that each other month they get a small print detailed "change" in the service, which they never read and worry about, at same time trying to convince me that i need to erase their worries.
So, if credit card rates go up, and lots of folks use them, then is this inflation ??? Seems not, since for example the item purchases last month did not have a price increase, so might the "extra cost" aquired over time for the same object not really be real ??? (joking)
The following you posted i have found to exist not only in print and stories, but in actual real life places we mention as reality. Only thing is that most people tell me that yes they understand what they are doing is wrong, but they mention that in the beginning of using credit cards its was ok and good based on the information and messages given out by banks and news media commercials accepting money in exchange to broadcast the banks message. But now these folks in deep debt, little savings, and hells bells if their income or job lessens. So now these folks see the media commercials to represent that saying last year about cigerattes, that they are a "drug delivery system" needing regulation. So in the same thoughts, all those commercials and received in mail "you are pre-approved" for credit cards are now viewed as a "drug delivery system" in regards to the drug being credit cards being abuse. To finally finish this point, those who see disaster in that they will default in the near future on credit card payments, these folks view themselves as victims, not as future criminals, so that when pay up time arrives, and they can not, they have now obtained the view that the banks were dishonest and ripped them off as in to steal their savings. Bottom line, a massive lawsuit but usa citizens against banks for what they did. Not much different than the mob, except the mob used physical violence to initiate criminal acts, and these banks used methods that the result lead to a same outcome, and no matter if the mob used bullets and banks used honey, as the sting of those bees wanting their honey back hurts.
Wonder if anyone knows what the savings and debt numbers were for usa public prior to past economic trouble times?
<<...have heard of some anecdotal evidence that weaker credits have begun to engage in amazon-like ponzi schemes with regards to their debt, i.e. they borrow anew to pay off old debt..only now, they borrow at higher rates. ... the first cracks in the debt pyramid have begun to appear, with a virtual shutting down of the junk bond market where more bonds have defaulted this year than were issued and the continued strains on credit spreads..... ... Howard Hill, one of the fathers of the securitization business and a highly respected figure in fixed income has serious misgivings about these developments as well.....>>
As most know since its public information, the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee has challenged GFMS to a public debate about the gold market. That challenge was based on a quest to get to the truth about what is really going on in that market, the gold loan numbers, the gold derivative numbers, etc.
Warning - Follows is GATA stuff via the Le Metropole Cafe.
The following commentary at the Cafe is directed towards the silver market, and the conclusion I get is simple, as it uses the M word, Manipulation. Seems to follow that the gold version would follow suit. Dougak
Michael Dorfman of Kenrock Investments has served commentary at The Dos Passos Table entitled, "The Annual Gold Fields Silver Surveys: Bullish ? Bearish? Or Puzzling?" |