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Pastimes : Ask God

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To: James Williams who wrote (6063)4/3/1997 3:02:00 PM
From: John Galt   of 39621
 
>>Firstly, then, I need to have a more specific definition of what you
consider 'mystical', and how it differs from the term you chose, 'magical'.<<

James, what John Galt finds 'magical' goes to the very 'essence' of
the 'question' of how all things came to be. This, by itself, is
not proof of an all knowing-ever-existing God. John Galt makes no
such leaps in logic as you have. Today, it is Science that uncovers or reveals 'beginnings' that then go to the application of logic.
Man's quest to seek the 'truth' or to define reality is a survival mechanism of his biological life. If he did not 'define reality' the
lions would have ruled instead.

>You are correct, I extrapolated from your original statement of "existence is magical" to mean YOUR existence, i.e. your mind whereby you know existence.<<

Apologies are no longer acceptable. Look to your bible for how you
came to be so imaginative. Vagueries often stimulate the need for
one's own mind to complete it.

>>For without mind, in a sense, there is neither existence or non-existence. The old "tree falling in the forest" conundrum.<<

Nonsense. Things exist. Whether a mind is there to recieve it makes
no difference. Quasars did not suddenly appear recently because man was only now able to view it.

>>And John, you have not always been in existence. You were caused. A
sperm and egg came together, and whether by the act of God as I
believe, or simply as a by-product of nature of the development of your brain, your mind was imbued into your body. Your beginning, while
perhaps not discernable to yourself, but I think your parents would beg to differ.<<

You are describing what is already discernable. You are wasting your time.

>>As far as your "I KNOW...etc." quote, no I don't find it that provocative, ominous or surprising. It is your claim to be God. The same claim Lucifer made, the same claim Adam made, and the expression of your fallen nature towards God.<

John Galt makes no claim to be god. He claims to be a man!

>>And one more thing: How else can one learn, and know, except he apply his imagination to concepts new to him, in true pursuit of the truth?<<

Much of what is true has been written by Science and presented by the historical evidence. One should speculate, imagine, dream, etc... But without knowing one's own mind, then it becomes easy to lose ones self from the ability to discern fact from fiction. Just ask your
dear departed brethren at Heaven's Gate.

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