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To: Neocon who wrote (6216)	5/20/2003 10:47:02 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) of 7720

Does this express what you are trying to say? "The difficulties the western tradition has had with sexual desire are spectacularly voiced by Kant: 'Taken by itself [sexual love] is a degradation of human nature; for as soon as a person becomes an object of appetite for another, all motives of moral relationship cease to function, because as an object of appetite for another a person becomes a thing and can be treated and used as such by every one' (Lectures on Ethics). Kant seems to be describing a gang rape rather than sexual love, but he thought the only, fragile, escape from the fate of being 'cast aside as one casts away a lemon that has been sucked dry' was a contractual relationship based on marriage, although he himself did not try it (nor, probably, sex). In Plato, sexual desire is a good, although only the first step on a ladder of perfection. The movements of thought whereby Plato's view degenerated to the Calvinism of Kant include increasing disgust with merely material as opposed to spiritual existence, and the Pauline and Augustinian conviction that original sin is somehow associated with sexual desire." uno.edu

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