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Pastimes : THE SLIGHTLY MODERATED BOXING RING

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To: Lane3 who wrote (472)3/1/2002 5:25:14 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 21057
 
I have no problem with pursuing him, proportionately or otherwise, for crimes. Beat him up in a back alley. I'd probably knee him, myself, if I got a chance. I have a problem with impeaching him. Run him through the courts and hang him at high noon. Fine by me. Just don't risk our government's stability with something that was not directly a function of his job as President.

If a president commits a crime that is not related to his job as president he should not be impeached? I disagree. Of course a minor crime, for example running a red light (yes I know they don't drive themselves around), doesn't deserve impeachment. Some people think perjury is a minor crime. I don't agree. I might agree that he should not have been forced to testify about the subject in the first place but he sort of hoisted himself on his own petard on that one when he signed the laws related to sexual harassment. But even if it was a minor crime and it didn't justify impeachment I'm more concerned at the moment with the overall standard you are apparently proposing. If Clinton had bumped off Hillary in a fit of anger when they had a fight about his cheating would you say he should not be subject to impeachment? What if he had been found guilty of rape? Yes these crimes are worse then anything that came up in the Whitewater or Lewinsky investigations, but hypothetically would you support impeachment in these cases? They don't have anything directly to do with his job as president.

You say "run him through the courts", but would you try a sitting president? Some legal scholars think that somehow the president is immune while he is still president. Even if he isn't it would be worse for the country then an impeachment. Besides he could just pardon himself...

If you mean after he leaves office, well that is years later. Its much harder to try and convict someone after a long delay, and in general I don't think someone should receive a special immunity from the law even if it is only temporary just because they are a high government official (even the highest as in Clinton's case). Also a pending indictment would probably distract the president almost as much as the impeachment did and the distraction would continue for the rest of his presidency.

Tim
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