Doug:
You wrote:
>>Boy I can see where I could grow to like this Thread! Agreed that you cannot legislate morality- but a government should also not legislate to encourage immorality. How would I define such legislation? Any legislation which limits an individual's ability/capability to accept responsibility for his/her actions.<<
I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY ON THIS POINT!
>>Yes Ancient Greece and the Roman Republic produced men/women of great oral virtue/character (I just reread the Annals of Tacitus about the Roman Empire 14-68 A.D.).<<
CAUTION! This was the latter, corrupt Rome.
>>I disagree with your statement however that our Founding Fathers left morality in the hands of the individuals. Almost all of the Founding Fathers of the USA were very strong Christians, and many observed (if you have had the chance to read any of the Constitutionalists' papers) that they very clearly considered individual action to be circumscribed by the basic moral principles laid down first by the various Prophets of the Old Testament, and then by Christ Jesus.<<
MANY paid lip service to religion, then proceeded to base the structure of Government on liberty and individual rights, and the protection of same.
>>Indeed if all items of morality had been intended to be left in the hands of individuals, then no Bill of Rights would have been needed to be appended to the Constitution....<<
RIGHTS needed to be defined to discourage future politicians from subverting them. Unfortunately, ways have been found that have allowed the subversion of our basic inalienable rights in the name of Kantian-collectivist philosophy and statist government interference with the rights of all individual Americans.
>>Also I am intrigued by your statement that Christ's philosophies are "anti-man and immoral". Can you clarify what you mean by that statement?<<
QUITE simply, the Christian altruistic credo, which summed up is: "From each according to his ability; to each according to his need." This is anti-liberty, anti-rational and anticapitalism. It is also the basis for socialism. In fact, "perfect" Christian societies were achieved in the historical time period now referred to as the "Dark Ages." And the application of Christian principals (with the State as figurehead instead of God) is the basis of pure, Marxist communism.
The altruist credo rewards the unproductive at the expense of the productive. It is the unspoken rationale for the various "redistribution of wealth" schemes that are perpetuated by both major political parties in the United States of America by immoral politicians who have hoodwinked the public since the heydays of American socialism in the 1920s. It is an immoral "morality" that robs individuals of rights in the name of need, creates mobs that seek political influence and handouts, and creates unconstitutional power in the hands of government bureaucrats.
I contend this doctrine is evil and anti-Man, anti-life. It ultimately leads to destruction and enslavement. The end result in this country could be fascism.
It didn't happen overnight. Look for the roots of this cancer in the decades which followed the Declaration of Independence. Go back to the Federalist Papers and the complete history (non-revisionist) of the Whiskey Rebellion. There you will find sown the first seeds of destruction.
Father Terrence |
