And still more info from AOL.
Subj: Re:Karen/I.R. Date: 96-11-12 11:09:43 EST From: Jhgklm
It sounds as if Karen protests way to loudly, almost as someone who just got caught with thier hand in the cookie jar. ============================================================= Subj: Re:Production Cycle Date: 96-11-12 12:00:53 EST From: Jhgklm
I was wondering if anyone could tell me when the disk drive OEM's start retooling thier plants for the next production cycle. This might be a good indicator as to when they would want to have a decision made on KM. ============================================================= Subj: Re:KAREN/I.R. Date: 96-11-12 12:56:33 EST From: RRomano617
Karen mentioned one post in paticular that made her uneasy. The post which reproduced the 10q. The only post like this was the one by Trader37 on 11/6/96. I thought this post was very informative and useful. I'm not a mind reader(especially of women), so I have no idea what the hell is going through Karen's head. I asked Karen if there were other insider purchases in the recent months and she declined to tell me. Karen also seemed to downplay the pre-comdex event, which she said will last only 10 minutes and charge for admission. ============================================================= Subj: Re:KAREN/I.R. Date: 96-11-12 13:58:57 EST From: ThfOfHrts
I think you should all just leave Karen alone, She is doing her job the way Ampex wants it done, she can have a job with me anytime. You know how many calls the PR must get especially now since the advent of services like AOL, which publish their phone numbers and basically push people to call... Im sure there are idiots calling her everyday asking her when the price of the stock is gonna go up.....
Go Ampex ============================================================= Subj: Re:KAREN/I.R. Date: 96-11-12 17:45:33 EST From: H102548
Just from my experience, Karen has always made a good faith effort to dig up hard facts to answer any question about past performance. She won't hype - won't speak to the future. Which is Ok by me. ============================================================= Subj: individual investor Date: 96-11-12 22:09:38 EST From: VHS 68
FWIW: current issue of individual investor (December '96) is still covering the same Magic 25 list it established in November of '95. it appears it will be next year before any revisions are made. this issue did not have any comments on AXC; just its listing in the list. this is the first time in many months no comments were written up. JL ============================================================= Subj: Re:individual investor Date: 96-11-12 22:28:34 EST From: LConn94664
I ALSO JUST RECEIVED THE DEC. ISSUE OF I.I., AND I AM NOT GOING TO RENEW MY SUBSCRIPTION EVEN THOUGH IT IS SO CHEAP! IT HAS GOTTEN TO COMMERCIAL, AND I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL JAN. TO GET THEIR MAJIC 25 PICKS THAT WERE CHOSEN IN......NOVEMBER ??? THEY DON'T LIKETO TALK ABOUT STOCKS THAT AREN'T MOVING WELL ============================================================= Subj: Re:KM Date: 96-11-13 10:02:58 EST From: Jhgklm
In the Nov issue of SSR they state: Several large firms have been testing KM and plan to make a decision by year end. Maybe this is why there was no mention of AXC in the Dec Individual Investor. I sub. to both. ============================================================= Subj: Re:Karen/I.R. Date: 96-11-13 11:05:48 EST From: H102548
Your irritation is understandable RRomano, but at least it highlights Ampex's maniacal expense watching the last couple of years. Which could work out to our benefit in the long run. Got a chuckle out of their charging admission to their Comdex presentation ...or is that standard procedure? They might even charge admission to Karen. The first KM moment of truth is coming up fast now of course. Even if they initially fail, I imagine they will hang in. Too big a potential market to give up on so easily. Bramson's purchase is a powerful signal that the company is on sound footing, and is very likely to grow. It seems to me that it isn't only a signal to stockholders, but also a signal to the large companies they are negotiating with - that Ampex is in it for the long run. My particular sense of corporate momentum continues to give me the opinion that '98 will be the truly exceptional year for AXC, but a sizable keeper deal could really speed up matters. Hoping. Profitably traded Marvel a few years ago. Their remarkable decline since highlights to me what can happen to a good company when they over diversify ( or "diworsify" as Peter Lynch calls it), take on too much debt, manages poorly etc. Ampex seems to be going in exactly the opposite direction. They are watching their pennies and whittling their efforts down to the biggest potential markets and to the things they do best. Long AXC! ============================================================= Subj: Re:Karen/I.R. Date: 96-11-13 20:34:25 EST From: Free Aum
They might even charge admission to Karen.>>
if thats the case count me in!! Also, I do think Ampex will reach 20f keeper kicks ass. Please eail me before its too late to buy TOM ============================================================= Subj: Pre-Comdex Date: 96-11-13 21:25:35 EST From: SUNHOST
If Ampex is charging admission for the technical paper presentation this Sunday, something tells me that it will be well worth it. Could it be that they have the solution for using Keeper disks with all kinds of heads? Is anyone planning to attend? I wish I could! By the way, I saw several 10K blocks trade today on upticks at 7 3/16, and the Balance of Power(TM) indicator continues showing very positive in the last 4 sessions! ============================================================= Subj: Re:individual investor Date: 96-11-13 21:30:16 EST From: WUmfleet
There is obviously more to your discontent with Individual Investor than their articles on current Magic 25 stocks, or the timing of the announcement of their new M25 selections. I have noticed that they often leave out Magic 25 follow-ups, especially when nothing new has developed, not just becuase the stock price is stagnant.
Sure the M25 selections won't be announced until their January issue, but this issue comes out in mid-December. ============================================================= Subj: Re:What about PRML? Date: 96-11-13 22:59:07 EST From: Dugasarc
Yes I know. PRML is used on the high end drives where expense is less of a problem. It will move to the mainstream as more chips are made. I won't go into the detection scheme itself but I will say this- A disk has magnetic "bits".. The magnetic "bit" is essentially a reatively uniformly magnetized area. Two adjacent mag bits are stuck head to head or tail to tail. This happens because the head current changes and thus we end up with alternating polarity of magnetic regions or bits. Now some bits have longer lenght than others. This is like Morse Cose where you have longs and shorts and so ons. Now that you understand this, the regions of magnitization, we have the reversal when the polarity is changed from one to the other. For example
Magnetic Cell = south----------->north ________________________ ____________________________________________ ---------> <---- -----> <--------- ----> and so on _______________________________________ L S S L S t t t t
t = transition region, where field is switched L= long pulse S= short pulse
OK now that we are really up to speed, we will talk about electrical bits instead of magnetics bits. The electrical bit comes from the transition region- One get a positive pulse in the head with a north-north transition " negative " south-south "
see picture again =============================================================
Subj: PRML Date: 96-11-13 23:16:01 EST From: Dugasarc
Yes I know.
LAST POST WAS POSTED BEFORE I FINISHED IGNORE THAT ONE READ THIS ONE
PRML is used on the high end drives where expense is less of a problem. It will move to the mainstream as more chips are made. I won't go into the detection scheme itself but I will say this- A disk has magnetic "bits".. The magnetic "bit" is essentially a reatively uniformly magnetized area. Two adjacent mag bits are stuck head to head or tail to tail. This happens because the head current changes and thus we end up with alternating polarity of magnetic regions or bits. Now some bits have longer lenght than others. This is like Morse Cose where you have longs and shorts and so ons. Now that you understand this, the regions of magnitization, we have the reversal when the polarity is changed from one to the other. For example
Magnetic Cell = south----------->north ____________________________________________ ---------> <---- -----> <--------- ----> and so on _______________________________________ L S S L S t t t t
t = transition region, where field is switched L= long pulse S= short pulse
OK now that we are really up to speed, we will talk about electrical bits instead of magnetics bits. The electrical bit comes from the transition region- One get a positive pulse in the head with a north-north transition " negative " south-south "
We'll look at picture again and indicate electrical pusle.
^ v ^ v electical pulses from mag pattern ---------> <---- -----> <--------- ----> and so on _______________________________________ L S S L S t t t t Notice the electical pulses are precisely located based on the precise location of the magnetic transition, hence you are looking for peaks to occur i certain tie frames or windows as e call them. Most codes now are self clocking.
Now here is the strange thing- Remember the old single density floppies? They had 2 mag fluc changes (bits if you like) for every 1 electrical bit or pulse. This is because of the unsophisticated code used. Miller Code I think
Then there was Modified Miller Code or Doube Density This had 1 mag bit (flux change) for eavery 1 electrical bit.
This was 2x efficient and hence the double density.
Now move on to run lenght limited codes- you can get More than 1 electical bit for every 1 mag bit. something like 3 for 2-
PRML is just the further advance of this concept of sqeezing more out of the magnitics. TradeOff = need more Signal To Noise to pull of higher density codes.
PRML augments this buy predicting if a peak occured if it is not 100% clear.
More Later,
matt =============================================================
Subj: Re:MR heads?SEG Date: 96-11-14 07:50:57 EST From: RRomano617
There is an article on Seagate(Company news) claiming they are producing over one million magneto-resistive heads pre week, and expects to reach two million head per week by the end of 1996. "This achievement reflects the success Segate has experienced in implementing MR technology throughout our recording head operation". According to Seagate MR technology is recognized as the recording head that will carry the data storage industry into the next century. This announcement seems to confirm Seagate's move from inductive to MR head technology. What does this mean for Ampex and KM? Is KM possible with MR heads? Appreciate Cmts. ============================================================= Subj: Ampex Pre-Comdex Date: 96-11-14 10:11:23 EST From: Stowsk
Talked to Karen at Ampex. To my understanding, Ampex will be making a presentation of some kind at a seminar for head manufacturers. I believe the charge is for the seminar, not specifically for the Ampex presentation. By the way, the charge is supposedly $400-$500. ============================================================= Subj: Re:PRML Date: 96-11-14 11:05:17 EST From: H102548
Damn Dugasarc. Go Ampex makes for easier reading. Thanks for the post. AXC is developing ( has developed) double density tape for its DST line. Similar principles at work? =============================================================
Subj: Re:PRML Date: 96-11-14 12:41:43 EST From: H102548
....which of course would give the 810 a 12.8 terabyte capacity for the newly emerging market for massive visual storage. All fitting into the corner of a large office, and fully compatible with a given networks hard drives. Wow!!! ============================================================= Subj: Re:PRML Date: 96-11-14 13:09:26 EST From: H102548
.....apologies if I'm sounding like a cheerleader. But, in my opinion, the 810 is an extraordinary product. And it is just beginning to ship. ============================================================= Subj: Re: Big Buyers Date: 96-11-14 19:41:56 EST From: JConroy107
I am long Ampex and considering going long on options, but one thing keeps nagging me. If KM deal is so big and so imminent, why isn't the big $$$ moving in and pushing up price? I know some folks were burnt by false alarms before, but if KM is a near term "go", then it seems to me that there would be some interest on the part of at least some of the heavy hitters. Just wondering. (I'd be long AXC anyway because of other products and patents). =============================================================
Subj: Re: Look what i found Date: 96-11-14 22:29:28 EST From: MQUAD
MONROVIA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 12, 1996--
New architecture to fill critical need for high-speed,
high-volume network storage
Impactdata, a division of DATATAPE Inc. specializing in high-performance network storage solutions, has introduced the world's first storage architecture, Distributed Storage Node Architecture (DSNA), that is optimized to take advantage of today's extremely high-speed computer networks.
According to International Data Corp., the average storage capacity at end-user sites is growing at 150 percent annually. Recognizing this, Impactdata developed DSNA as a network storage solution that can be integrated without changes to currently used application programs, thus protecting an organization's investment in hardware and software.
Enterprise computing users will benefit from a DSNA implementation, since applications operating anywhere on a network can access and use data as if it were stored locally. Organizations implementing a DSNA environment realize the benefits of centralized control with distributed access, enabling vast amounts of information to be accessed and shared across multiple computing platforms.
"Today's departmental and enterprise-level high-performance computers produce as much data as yesterday's supercomputers," said Bob Farkaly of Impactdata's Storage Solutions division. "This has created a data management challenge that cannot be addressed adequately with current technology.
"Impactdata's Distributed Storage Node Architecture is the answer to this crisis. Its state-of-the-art management capabilities finally allows the fastest, most sophisticated computer storage networks to be controlled and managed. DSNA is a truly open solution that is scalable for both capacity and performance, while taking advantage of commercial, off-the-shelf PCI technology to provide a cost-effective, high-value storage solution."
DSNA features:
-- Ease of integration. DSNA enables storage devices from multiple vendors to be integrated in a plug-and-play fashion into an enterprise's overall network for a total storage solution.
-- High-performance data access. DSNA is built for today's extremely high-speed networks, offering data transfer at speeds up to 100Mbytes/s.
-- Investment protection. DSNA supports the leading high-speed networks (HIPPI, ATM, Fibre channel, Ethernet, FDDI) and a growing number of storage peripheral devices, allowing an organization to implement a DSNA solution without the expense of radically changing its computing landscape.
"Impactdata's DSNA will allow users to dynamically expand storage
-- at the speed of the network -- independent of the continual changes made to the underlying processors in these high performance computing environments," said Bruce Borden, managing director of research, Smaby Group Inc. (Minneapolis). "DSNA is one of the first solutions to address a new distributed storage paradigm taking place in the High Performance Computing (HPC) industry."
A typical organization to benefit from a DSNA implementation is one that has at least 100 gigabytes of on-line storage, uses high-speed networks for data movement, produces large amounts of data that need to be stored and retrieved for such purposes as data mining and/or has an installed relational database like Informix, Sybase and Oracle. The cost of the technology starts at less than $50,000.
"I feel the ability to configure DSNA subsystems with a choice of vendor hardware is a definite advantage," said Thomas M. Ruwart, assistant director, Laboratory for Computational Science and Engineering, University of Minnesota. "This allows users to integrate the DSNA into their current environments thus maintaining their original capital investment in archiving hardware and media.
"Our research group at the University of Minnesota's Laboratory for Computational Science and Engineering has a significant investment in Ampex D2 tape subsys ============================================================= Subj: Re: Look what i found Date: 96-11-14 22:38:18 EST From: MQUAD
LTO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 21, 1996--Legato Systems, Inc. (NASDAQ: LGTO), a leader in the enterprise storage management software market, today announced NetWorker 4.2.5 for UNIX, covering the AIX, Solaris and SunOS platforms.
NetWorker 4.2.5 for UNIX will deliver unprecedented performance and usability from a client/server storage management application, and has the ability to offer high performance and reliable solutions for even those customers with the most demanding storage management requirements.
"NetWorker 4.2.5 is targeted at customers deploying enterprise-class storage management systems. For the first time, distributed, LAN-based storage servers can take advantage of high speed devices as well as existing silo tape libraries, significantly improving overall performance," said Kent Smith, chief operating officer of Legato Systems, Inc.
NetWorker 4.2.5 for UNIX takes advantage of NetWorker's parallelism and OpenTape architecture by further optimizing NetWorker's already outstanding data transfer technology, thereby increasing performance. With support for AIX 4.2 and Solaris 2.5.1, plus numerous enhancements designed to improve reliability, Legato is confident customers will find NetWorker 4.2.5 fast, scalable and reliable.
Customers who either require or have an existing silo or library will be able to take advantage of the optional Silo Support Module offered by NetWorker 4.2.5 for Solaris and AIX. This module allows NetWorker servers, in conjunction with appropriate library software, to utilize StorageTek's Automated Cartridge Storage Library Subsystem or EMASS' DAS.
Multiple NetWorker servers can be attached to the silo or library, with each NetWorker server managing a separate partition within the silo or library in cooperation with the library manager. The silo retains the ability to be shared with mainframes, other applications or other UNIX servers. There are two stratifications of the Silo Support Module -- one allows NetWorker to manage from 1-128 volumes (or pieces of media) within a silo or library, and the other allows NetWorker to manage an unlimited number of volumes.
Companies who need to transfer massive amounts of data in as short a time span as possible can now take full advantage of the highest speed storage devices using Legato's optional High Speed Device Support Module for NetWorker for Solaris or AIX. The module provides the necessary support for attaching an AMPEX DST-310, DST-410, IBM 3590 with Magstar or Sony DTF to a NetWorker server.
The enhanced performance of these devices is 9-18 MB/sec. and NetWorker's parallelism feature provides the ability to use these drives at their maximum speed.
"Finally we are able to address the near-crisis need to back up massive amounts of data in a shrinking backup window. With databases doubling in size every two years, customers are facing a real data management dilemma. NetWorker coupled with Ampex's high capacity, high performance DST tape drives can deliver "virtual disk" performance to demanding customers. Now regularly scheduled full backups at a rate of better than 11MB/sec. per drive are possible, and lightning fast restores are a reality.
"Using a server such as Sun's ULTRASPARC 4000 with one or more DST drives will yield astounding results. Speeds up to 19.2 MB/sec. were easily achieved with two drives, and better than 22MB/sec. obtained when configured with high performance disk arrays. That's half a terabyte in six hours and a full terabyte in six hours when configured with four drives. Amazing!" said Linda Sarles, vice president sales and marketing, Ampex Corporation.
Pricing and Availability
Legato Systems' NetWorker 4.2.5 is now available with pricing beginning at $6,000. Silo Support will be offered at $9,500 for the 1-128 volume module and $30,000 for the unlimited volume module. The High Speed Device Support will be offered at $6,500 per server (all prSubj: Re:MR heads?SEG Date: 96-11-14 23:21:13 EST From: WUmfleet
I am no expert at recording head technology, but I did see an article that "Gus" posted on Silicon Investor that said Seagate has been working with MR head technology for quite a few years. They may be producing alot of these drives with MR, but currenlty, from what I hear, yields on MR heads aren't very good, and it is a more expensive product to build.
With PC's being the commodity that they are (very price sensitive), with price:performance levels getting better all the time, and with the advent of Network PC's that need to conatin the most inexpensive of hardware, I believe Keepered Media will have several years of success. In addition, there is no ruling out KM from working with MR technology, or with Iomega Zip drives (for example) that may keep KM on a very long and successful, money-making careeer.
KM is going to reap a certain amount of benefit for Ampex and its shareholders. This benefit could be quite extreme if Ampex further develops KM for use in applications other than inductive head technology.
Long on Ampex, --Wayne-- ============================================================= Subj: Re:Articles Date: 96-11-15 00:20:44 EST From: Brooke295
Good articles....Good stuff....................is it already in the stock price? ============================================================= Subj: Re:Karen/I.R. Date: 96-11-15 01:16:52 EST From: Veetoh
For those interested there is also a good thread on the Internet at "www.techstocks.com" on Ampex etc. ============================================================= Subj: Re:Pre-Comdex Date: 96-11-15 01:17:57 EST From: Veetoh
I also have Worden Telechart 2000 and the TSV looks good also. ============================================================= Subj: Re:What about PRML? Date: 96-11-15 01:20:48 EST From: Veetoh
I own Ampex at 6 1/2 and I didi not buy it just for the Keepering News or lack of it. I think people are making a big mistake on puttting too much emphasis on KM. I bought it for other areas and KM will just be Gravy or the Icing on the cake. ============================================================= Subj: Re: Pre-Comdex Session Date: 96-11-15 11:09:27 EST From: SUNHOST
The way the stock is acting today, I think that the session coming up Sunday as a seminar for which people will pay severasl hundred dollars may have some good information about what Ampex is doing to see that Keepering is compatible with different types of heads...Also remember that the 10Q states that Ampex is NEGOTIATING with several disk manufacturers. YOU DON'T NEGOTIATE ANYTHING UNLESS THERE HAS BEEN ACCEPTANCE OF THE BENEFITS!!..Ampex still is the biggest bargain around, but not for long, IMHO. ============================================================= Subj: Re: Pre-Comdex Session Date: 96-11-15 11:16:32 EST From: Rouet
First time posting...been an owner a long time...I understand that they are not going to be at the storage conference on that sunday, call the company... ============================================================= Subj: Re: Pre-Comdex Session Date: 96-11-15 11:30:10 EST From: Moonlit801
Rouet, my Paine Webber broker just called me to tell me about ampex's presentatation prior to the start of the Comdex show. Yes good things are going to happen!!!, just look at todays volume and we will see 8 by the end of today........
Hal, me you and Sunhost will be sitting around a pool sipping margaretta's soon, or at least I will have the 13 grand I need for my new bulkhead and dock.....Go Ampex
For any other people who may be interested, JTS is also gonna benifit from the comdex show and there will be some good movement in the stock.....got that from my swami ============================================================= Subj: Re: Pre-Comdex Session Date: 96-11-15 11:38:17 EST From: Rouet
Moonlit, can you get the schedule for the pre-Comdex meeting from your Paine Webber broker? What is the subject headline to their scheduled appearance? How much will they reveal about KM progress? v Subj: Re: Pre-Comdex Session Date: 96-11-15 11:40:20 EST From: Rouet
Thanks in advance for any additional info ============================================================= Subj: Re:What about PRML? Date: 96-11-15 14:50:28 EST From: HPhill
Why would it matter? If it goes up because of KM or DST I don't care! Just as long as it goes up!
GO AMPEX!!!!! ============================================================= Subj: Re: Pre-Comdex Session Date: 96-11-15 15:40:47 EST From: H102548
Lisa, I'd love to sip some margaritas with you and Sunhost if a KM deals comes through. I'll be gulping them for awhile if it doesn't. Either way, I'm with Bramson. AXC is on the long term bargain shelf. ============================================================= Subj: Re: Pre-Comdex Session Date: 96-11-16 00:05:48 EST From: Mrcoppola
I just hope you all have to go to AA from all the margarita's after the news on keepered media shines...
is it hype or fact, we will find out soon I guess ============================================================= Subj: Re: Drunken Date: 96-11-16 06:27:52 EST From: Brooke295
I would guess that Fridays volume was options related. Remember a few weeks ago when the Nov 7.5's had extremely high volume.....yesterday they all unwound.
New Individual Investor update edition came in the mail yesterday. Exerpt "....Ampex's stock is fairly valued trading at 21 times expected 1996 earnings, but if the computer hard-drive manufacturers license keepering, the stock could double on the news. An answer is expected in the next 2 months. If keepering does not pan out, expect Ampex's stock to fall to $6, or even $5. Investors should not panic if this happens, and should view the drop as a buying opportunity. Ampex should earn $0.50/share in 1997 without keepering, and the stock deserves a 15 to 20 multiple. This values the shares at $7.50 to $10."
Good luck ============================================================= Subj: Re: Options Date: 96-11-16 09:27:16 EST From: JConroy107
Where is a good place on line to track option activity? Looking to buy Ampex options. Thanks in advance. ============================================================= Subj: Re: Drunken Date: 96-11-16 10:25:33 EST From: H102548
I subscribe to and get a kick out of Individual Investor. But I remember early last year when AXC had surged to over 5, and with the time lag on publication, they came out and said it was a good buy up to 4. Stock immediately fell back sharply. Later in the year they said their target was 10 all along ( and AXC has made their earnings numbers consistently this year. Why should their targets jump around so?). Last month they said anyone should be comfortable buying under 8, but that the core value of the business was 5??? Now they say it is fairly valued in the 7s?? Forgive me if I don't take their analysis too seriously.I do take Bramson's analysis seriously ....400,000 shares purchased just below 7. The unusually wide range of potential outcomes in this stock continue to make it something of a high stakes gamble, but I sure continue to be delighted with the odds.In my opinion, patience is the only ingredient necessary to turn it from a gamble into a pretty good to great investment over time. Very good luck to all. ============================================================= Subj: Re: Drunken Date: 96-11-16 10:49:40 EST From: HPhill
I bet a lot of people were happy that Ampex closed above 7.5. The Nov 7 1/2 didn't expire wortless!! Extremely high volume on Dec 7 1/2's. Must be a lot of people sure something is up by the third friday of Dec.! Volume has increased on options much more than the stock itself percentage wise. This seems to be a very good sign! ============================================================= Subj: Re:Beware Date: 96-11-17 08:16:13 EST From: Brooke295
If you believe that the DOW is in for some down days soon, you might be able to buy AXC in the 6's. I'm still bullish on AXC, but the posts here are all VERY bullish, which says to me that there are some down days ahead. Sorry............call me overly cautious. ============================================================= Subj: Re:Beware Date: 96-11-17 16:28:03 EST From: JAandJA
for what its worth, and I couldn't even guess, when I stopped by for 30 seconds at the AXC booth at the Unix Expo show in NYC, the man there could not quite make out who I was, but whispered that Quantum was looking at the DST. They definitely have a keepering technology, I saw it in action.
============================================================= Subj: Re:Beware Date: 96-11-17 17:12:14 EST From: H102548
Ja and Ja. Thanks for the post, but I don't exactly understand it. What did he mean by "looking at the DST". Did you see a drive with a keepered platter? Why did he whisper? ============================================================= Subj: Re:Beware Date: 96-11-17 18:40:02 EST From: JAandJA
I have no clue why he was so secretive, it was if he wasn't supposed to be telling me something. Believe me, I put zero pressure on him. I saw the machine, working. ESystems had a similiar machine which was near it. ============================================================= Subj: Re:Beware Date: 96-11-17 20:17:10 EST From: H102548
Thanks ============================================================= Subj: Re: -Comdex Session Date: 96-11-17 21:48:52 EST From: ScottRigg
What's the news?Anybody attend presentation?Thanks. Scott Rigg ============================================================= Subj: Re: Brooke's |