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Pastimes : Paranormally Psychotic DSP as a Predictive Methodology

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To: Eddy Blinker who wrote (4)4/30/2001 5:06:35 AM
From: E. Charters   of 10
 
No that passage you quoted is not me, that is Hegel. (his words, they define his thought.) What the German philosophers were enamoured of in their dense and associative way was the science of social philosophy. They were interested in examining man and his actions and seeing if they made sense rigorously as physics seemed to and to see if systematic sense could be made out of mundane and seemingly prosaic but complexly rooted decisions of man. So without defining things like crime a priori, the German philosphers thought you could define them in terms of good will and bad will. i.e in the sphere of right. i.e. the criminal does wrong and the non criminal does right and they both know it. The reasoned from the other side in that they thought the definitions would work themselves out by talking about the known aspects of the subject.

Hegel's thought processes were deep but as in most German texts it is poorly translated as their are too many modern meaning of many of the words that have been subtly corrupted in both languages so that it is hard to follow. The original German is supposed to be hard to follow too, but that is probably because most people cannot think. For instance does contingency mean a dependency, something that is possible, something you have to plan against, or something upon which something else is dependent?

It makes more sense if you argue he means dependency, i.e. having a will means that it is dependent on something else existing first.

All this is saying is it is hard to find the root of the self, realization, consciousness of self, or where will to action comes from. Motivation as in Hamlet was what was fascinating Hegel that he wrote so much text on it. He was concerned also as to what constituted man's ethical fabric and this concept of morality and whether that was rooted in a primitive will of some kind. He postulated that a basic self that was not rational but was self recognizing, was necessary before on could have will, therefore there was no objective determination of will. Since the will rested entirely on subjective perception it could not make decisions except in a sphere relative to one's own outlook. This made the master philosopher of objective determinism and rational thought somewhat a relativist and paved the way for later social relativism that dominates modern thinking and laid the basis for Einstein's theory of physical relativity. (By his own admission and his wife's influence)

So the "brass instrument" metricist thinkers of German social and psychological thought were not so far off our relative-behaviourist mark as might be thought. If one goes far enought into the objective rational one comes up with a position that is made up of personal position. We are modifying the authoritarian behaviourist-socialist theories of the 50's and 60's in favour of the triumph of the individual in a self perceived role in society.
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