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To: TimF who wrote (76129)	10/1/2003 9:21:16 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) of 82486

"It could be argued that the hockey team made at least an implied promise to you. I'm quite willing to entertain that argument, but absent that promise they didn't harm you" What do you think we have been talking about? So entertain it...please. There is a default assumption that people will be treated equally in decent society--whether they are getting a hair-cut, buying groceries, or assessing their prostate. When one comes across a provider who has mental/emotional problems and sexual hang-ups...it becomes a discussion. "If however the Hockey team advertises and sells tickets and doesn't provide any sort of notification or announcement of any rules or limitations on those tickets, and you buy one, and then later go to the game and you are not let in because of your sexual preferences (although they usually wouldn't know that) or sex, or race, or hair color, then it could very reasonable be argued that they did not live up to their end of the bargain." You seem to be understanding it a bit better... I believe there is the possibility of moral let-down. You wish to honour a "moral" obligation ("I have been talking about someone having a moral obligation") but morality is relative. Outside of the law..you do not tell the rest of us what harm is or is not. "First of all I wasn't arguing about did they suffer harm or not, I was arguing about did the bigot harm them. The distinction is subtle but not insignificant" The distinction is not significant in the instance we are addressing. My point was not a legal one. I never said that being a jerk was illegal. I only said that being a jerk can be harmful. I have tried to point that out to you. I believe that people have the right to be ass-holes, jerks, and freaks. My point was only that idiots can cause harm--just as good people can cause happiness. That ought not to be hard to understand...

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