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Politics : Politics of Energy
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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (7589)4/27/2009 8:12:37 AM
From: RetiredNow  Read Replies (1) of 86356
 
1. No science can model the system. Wild claims have been repeatedly proven to be false. The alarmists have no credibility. Why are the wild claims made?

Bob, again, this is alarmingly ignorant of statistics. Please go read up on statistics so that you can contribute intelligent posts to this thread. You don't need to model an entire system perfectly to form conclusions about variables in that system. Science is able to model parts of systems, which gives us excellent information to work off of. They do it all the time. Sometimes your posts are breathtakingly ignorant.

2. Climate change is a historical fact. It has happened before long before the industrial age - why is the cause different now?

Climate change is a fact. Global warming and cooling cycles are also a fact of Earth history. What's different is that we happen to be orders of magnitude more technologically advanced than we have ever been in human history. With new technology comes new ways to measure cause and effect. What we're learning about global warming is increasingly alarming climatologists. That's what is different.

3. GW alarmists viscously try to silent critics. Why?

Really? I saw more evidence of Cheney and Bush silencing real scientists than I do of any AGW apologists silencing critics. In fact, the critics are a very loud and vocal minority with alot of financial clout. So they are far from silenced. They are simply being ridiculed among those with advanced degrees. Knowledge is the prime difference. Those with more knowledge dissent less on this topic.

4. The only meaningful technology that would make a difference - nuclear power - is resisted by GW alarmists. Why? (Solar farms also meet wacko environmentalist resistance.)

Nuclear power is resisted not just by GW apologists, but by Americans in general. Fear of the unknown is my guess. People need to get over their fee of nuclear power. The tech has improved quite a bit since 3-mile island.

5. EPA regulations require Best Available Control Technology - none exists. How will that be implemented?

Why do you say none exists? This sounds vaguely worded to me.

6. Any thing we do on a "maybe" will not matter as China and India etc. do not give a flip. Since the tipping point is near - hey - we are going to tip - why commit economic suicide if it does not matter. If we should not be concerned about a near term tipping point - then it is all just a continued lie!

I would argue that there are benefits to diversifying our energy supply besides addressing global warming...benefits like decoupling the economy from the volatile oil price cycle and potential future oil price spikes from peak oil...benefits like unshackling our foreign policy from the drive to secure our oil supplies.

5. GW alarmists are profiteers. I do not need to ask why?

Not exactly true. 97% of climatologists believe warming is real and humans are a major driver of it. Climatologists are the scientists most qualified to form conclusions on climate change. Most are academics. The true profiteers are companies like First Solar and SunPower, and others. And I wouldn't have it any other way. I want renewable energies to be motivated by the profit principle. That's the way market economies work best to find viable, effective solutions. You cry socialism all the time and then you now don't like the fact that profit is what makes the market tick? Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.
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