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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction

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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (78038)3/2/2010 6:39:56 PM
From: TimF   of 90947
 
but I don't think that's enough above 200 or so to call teaching a "part-time" job

I don't either, and I didn't call it that. I just think its less work than most full time workers.

You might also consider that a full five-day week in many hourly jobs in the US is 35 hours.

For most salaried jobs, and many hourly jobs its longer than that.

From my experience, teachers were expected to be on the job, onsite, from roughly 7:30 to 4:30 with about a half hour for lunch. That's 42.5 hours per week just at school

Experience varies a lot, apparently its an hour a day less in Illinois.

Also, teachers unions have more control in some states than in others. Teachers in GA have no union.

Yes I think the unions are an important issue here. Which is the reason I mentioned non-union teachers as making less (and I would add probably working more).

See Message 26357460

To attract new teachers, all schools, public and private, compete in the same labor market. If some teachers opt for private schools despite lower pay, it is probably because of the greater prestige (on average) of teaching at a private school

A prestigious private academy conveys more prestige than some broken down inner city school, but I don't think most of the religious schools (which amount for a huge portion of private schools) convey more than any semi-decent school or school system. And the teacher at that academy might make more than the public school teacher rather than less like most private school teachers.

some affinity for the school or its mission

That I think is a real factor, and probably the "belief that the students will be generally more motivated and better behaved, and parents more supportive" as well.

Still I think the union and politics play a role in inflating the teacher salaries to a higher level than they would be in a pure open market. The whole education/teacher credential thing is an important part of that. It puts a barrier for prospective public school teachers to jump over before they can teach, reducing the supply for that largest segment of the market and thus increasing prices.
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