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Politics : Foreign Policy Discussion Thread

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (7874)12/22/2006 2:06:42 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (2) of 15987
 
And if such changes happen over a decade or two, that's pretty quick for such major shifts in thinking [as a population bust, a NUN creation].

Yes that would be reasonably quick for such a major shift. That a big part of my point. It isn't going to happen almost immediately. It most likely isn't relevant to the current situation in Iraq, and wouldn't have been even if we tried to bring about such an organization before the 2003 invasion.

And it is just like a Tamagochi fad.

No, its not just like it. Its massively different. Consumer fads can go in and out in a very short time, and they don't require serious commitment or agreement from anyone. Yes changing the opinions of individuals outside of government and other power structures could be a start, but even that is a lot harder then convincing a decent number of them to buy Tamgochis. People don't have to change their opinions to buy a Tamagochi, they just look at them and say "hey that's cute", or "I wan't one" and they get it. They don't have to be seriously convinced about anything. It could be a minor impulse of no real significance. Getting people behind a "NUN" is a bigger deal. Getting them solidly enough behind it that they actively campaign for it is an even bigger deal.

You won't get a NUN with a socialist foundation, which is the conventional idea of a World Government and why so many despise the idea. It has to start at the other end of the political spectrum. It would be collectivist only in the sense of common interests [such as clean air, oceans, protected borders, and managed spectrum], not a subsuming of individuals, countries and their property to some Kremlinized Central Planning Authority.

A lot of governments, and a lot of individuals have a certain degrees of socialist leaning. They would get to influence the design and powers of any NUN.

As for common interests I don't necessarily want them to be collectivist either, or decided by some quasi world government. I don't want CO2 emissions for businesses or spectrum rights to be handed down by some international body. If they are going to be internationally decided it should be by specific treaty.
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