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Politics : Actual left/right wing discussion
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To: koan who wrote (9014)12/15/2010 4:07:04 PM
From: TimF   of 10087
 
but you also need a fully functioning society. And that requires people giving up some of their freedoms.

Like the freedom to kill-lol.

True (at least if you define freedom as the ability to do whatever you want even if it harms someone else and violates their rights, others might say that you properly have no right to initiate violence on someone else and that your not giving up any freedom when you recognize this), but largely irrelevant.

No one is going around holding up signs chanting "murder should be allowed, legalize all killing".

Libertarianism isn't anarchy or support of anarchy (and if it was then support for government impost socialism would still be contradictory to individual freedom, and an imposition of government, so "libertarian socialism" wouldn't make sense anyway).

Trade offs between how much the government will control, and how much is left to the individual get made in society. The libertarian viewpoint is one that says the trade-offs should lean toward maximizing individual freedom, except when the individual is seeking to harm or violate others. Socialism is close to the opposite. Traditionally socialism meant government ownership of the means of production. Well if that's enforced its anti-individual liberty.
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